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    Posted: 06 Dec 22 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by 423zero

Should we be discussing alcohol on a thread about drunken trainers sounds like a sea shanty.

As I am fairly sure neither of us are running sailing courses today so I think we are ok  LOL. 
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Should we be discussing alcohol on a thread about drunken trainers sounds like a sea shanty.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Try some Laphroaig, that is calming

Good call. But as a man with a  Northern Ireland background, Bushmill would be my whiskey of choice. Smile
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Try some Laphroaig, that is calming
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Originally posted by 423zero

he does that a lot, that's why his posts are checked, Nurse could you increase his meds


Thanks pal  LOL LOL LOL But I am not the only one Smile Smile Smile

Re my nurse, I will ask her to up the dosage then next time she calls .  Smile LOL


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Originally posted by NicolaJayne

Originally posted by Dakota

[QUOTE=JRB12]The LA, I assume have taken the word of the chair, which is not worth a jot.
Governing body have had numerous items of evidence yet claim to have nothing to do
With club matters and won’t get involved.
A process has been deliberately hindered to ensure a favourable outcome to exonerate
Someone who holds a status in the club, yet abuses their position in the club.
People have nowhere to turn so, resign as directors , where they will be liable for any misconduct.

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Why was the LA involved in the first place ? 


Why wasn’t the health and safety executive involved ? 

Also why did the accused have a ‘ line manager’ . What sort of sailing club has ‘ line managers ‘? 

This situation is very very strange .


if it is a safeguarding issues the LA  would be the first point of call  

also  EHO  often  do  H+S  enforcement for smaller organisations 

 voluntary  organisations  have line managemnt structures 

 you are  , quite frankly, embarassing yourself  here 

Thanks but I think your last line could be seen as a little patronising   Confused
Its just it is outside of my experience. I’ve been sailing for 35 years, been a member of 5 clubs ( some small and some middle sized) and been a committee member of my current club  for 15 years and have never ever met a ‘ line manager ‘ . 
Yes I do understand why a LA COULD  be involved, I was asking why it was on this case( I had missed the post where the OP explained )  and why it appears  had no input or scrutiny of the process. Which is what the OP said happened, which seems unlikely.
My problem is not with story , its the view point the story has been related to us from . 
This story as told to us is ‘ strange ‘ on so many levels and that is my last comment on it  Smile


Edited by Dakota - 05 Dec 22 at 7:17pm
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TT, not tempted to come back for a career change? Top money circa £20,000


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he does that a lot, that's why his posts are checked, Nurse could you increase his meds
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Originally posted by Dakota

[QUOTE=JRB12]The LA, I assume have taken the word of the chair, which is not worth a jot.
Governing body have had numerous items of evidence yet claim to have nothing to do
With club matters and won’t get involved.
A process has been deliberately hindered to ensure a favourable outcome to exonerate
Someone who holds a status in the club, yet abuses their position in the club.
People have nowhere to turn so, resign as directors , where they will be liable for any misconduct.

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Why was the LA involved in the first place ? 


Why wasn’t the health and safety executive involved ? 

Also why did the accused have a ‘ line manager’ . What sort of sailing club has ‘ line managers ‘? 

This situation is very very strange .


if it is a safeguarding issues the LA  would be the first point of call  

also  EHO  often  do  H+S  enforcement for smaller organisations 

 voluntary  organisations  have line managemnt structures 

 you are  , quite frankly, embarassing yourself  here 
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Anybody else seeing this as a parallel to Ness’s FB Xmas Quiz? Guess the club….
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