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    Posted: 02 Nov 22 at 6:58am
Originally posted by Do Different

In some ways it would be more levelled in heavy boats to minimise the difference in crew weights and perhaps boat unfamiliar to the entrants. Squibs or FFs ? Just saying. 


That would pretty much exclude the Junior Class sailors which would be a shame IMO
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Originally posted by sargesail

Originally posted by Do Different

In some ways it would be more levelled in heavy boats to minimise the difference in crew weights and perhaps boat unfamiliar to the entrants. Squibs or FFs ? Just saying. 


That would pretty much exclude the Junior Class sailors which would be a shame IMO

Why?

Keelboats - particularly those - are only large heavy dinghies. The issue with a keelboat would be depth at the venue and it wouldn't ever happen.

Wanderer or Wayfarer would be more viable, agree that finding loan boats is an issue though. Hartleys may be able to help as they export a lot of them, or used to. The other option from the same stable would be a H15. Relies on manufacturer support of course, as would a Vision/Quest or similar.

But juniors aren't excluded. They may not be advantaged, but frankly if they cant get in one of the above and sail it they wont be in a position to be invited.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Old timer, I didn't have the skill to have taken part, still know people who only crew.

Ah ... I see ... yes plenty of people choose to crew, thankfully, but the event would offer them the option to participate in the single handed cycle ... therefore not discounting crews which is too often the case even in these enlightened days ...
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All this said the event seems to be in good health so I guess they have the format correct.

The RS200 is probably the easiest boat to borrow in the UK and suits most teams of 2 people.


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It does have a rep for being twitchy though and is not a good weight carrier. A twitchy boat with a kite on an inland venue sounds challenging for those who haven't sailed one before?
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The story that I heard was that the prototype 200 was so twitchy that they ended up putting the skeg on to dampen it down a bit.
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Maybe my boat/ experience background, but I’ve always found the 200 quite docile.  Best form your own decisions rather than rumours.
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Well, we won the endeavour sailing at 145 kilos, so it carries weight pretty well. I did the nationals at 126, finishing 2nd, Elliott and Martin were 140. 

It's twitchy compared to a GP14, but not that twitchy compared to a N12. For a race boat, rather than a 'trainer racer' like a 2000 I would say it is about as unremarkable in it's handling as is possible to get. 
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Originally posted by Do Different

In some ways it would be more levelled in heavy boats to minimise the difference in crew weights and perhaps boat unfamiliar to the entrants. Squibs or FFs ? Just saying. 

Everyone is allowed an opinion... but holding the dinghy champion of champions event in a *keelboat* is pretty weird. 
The 200 is pretty good in that both an oppy sailor at 45 kilos, or a OK sailor at 90 can find someone to sail with. 
I could have chosen someone more 'on weight' to sail with, but preferred to do it with my championship winning crew. 


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Fair comment, and the sailors entering the Endeavour are amongst the best we have. 

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