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    Posted: 02 Nov 22 at 9:25am
All this said the event seems to be in good health so I guess they have the format correct.

The RS200 is probably the easiest boat to borrow in the UK and suits most teams of 2 people.


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Originally posted by 423zero

Old timer, I didn't have the skill to have taken part, still know people who only crew.

Ah ... I see ... yes plenty of people choose to crew, thankfully, but the event would offer them the option to participate in the single handed cycle ... therefore not discounting crews which is too often the case even in these enlightened days ...
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Originally posted by Do Different

In some ways it would be more levelled in heavy boats to minimise the difference in crew weights and perhaps boat unfamiliar to the entrants. Squibs or FFs ? Just saying. 


That would pretty much exclude the Junior Class sailors which would be a shame IMO

Why?

Keelboats - particularly those - are only large heavy dinghies. The issue with a keelboat would be depth at the venue and it wouldn't ever happen.

Wanderer or Wayfarer would be more viable, agree that finding loan boats is an issue though. Hartleys may be able to help as they export a lot of them, or used to. The other option from the same stable would be a H15. Relies on manufacturer support of course, as would a Vision/Quest or similar.

But juniors aren't excluded. They may not be advantaged, but frankly if they cant get in one of the above and sail it they wont be in a position to be invited.
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Originally posted by Do Different

In some ways it would be more levelled in heavy boats to minimise the difference in crew weights and perhaps boat unfamiliar to the entrants. Squibs or FFs ? Just saying. 


That would pretty much exclude the Junior Class sailors which would be a shame IMO
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Home sailors are always going to have an advantage, as are those familiar with the chosen boat. They also have to pick a class that can provide enough loan boats for the event so a niche class would be unviable. I'd prefer to see boats without kites as some have little or no experience with them. IMHO the Ent was probably the fairest, carries weight reasonably well no kite to complicate matters, technical but not too technical and it's well suited to inland waters.

*Optimum weight used to be, a very average, 22 stone, but whatever boat, lightweights always have an advantage in a drifter and heavyweights when it blows.
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Old timer, I didn't have the skill to have taken part, still know people who only crew.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Old timer, I crewed in Yachts and Dinghies before taking up helming in 2010, speaking for myself, sure to be others.


Don’t understand your point. Sorry.
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Originally posted by Old Timer


Originally posted by 423zero

Would only work if you only picked single handed winners,crew would have to be left out, makes it seem like they are only passengers to be discarded.

No .. .crews get to race also ... so you could have two entries for double handed classes.
Why would you assume crews get discarded ... bit old school ... 


But not all crews necessarily have the ability to helm a boat?
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In some ways it would be more levelled in heavy boats to minimise the difference in crew weights and perhaps boat unfamiliar to the entrants. Squibs or FFs ? Just saying. 
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Old timer, I crewed in Yachts and Dinghies before taking up helming in 2010, speaking for myself, sure to be others.
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