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    Posted: 01 Nov 22 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by Paramedic

But I stand by the observation that the Xenon years were the levellest playing field.

Arguably yes, but how many people want to do an expensive event in Xenons, especially on that water? Also very dependant on getting the manufacturer support.
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Yes it was in GP14s for a few years. Mike Holmes’s won it five times-he bought what was probably the fastest boat around at the time to do it, and kept it just for the event. (The boat had a weird sheer line that gave it a droop nose and a longer waterline)
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Originally posted by 423zero

Would only work if you only picked single handed winners,crew would have to be left out, makes it seem like they are only passengers to be discarded.

No .. .crews get to race also ... so you could have two entries for double handed classes.

Why would you assume crews get discarded ... bit old school ... 
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Originally posted by Old Timer

Maybe every other year it should be in single handers. 

Theres no perfect answer. People will look to gain/use whatever legitimate advantage they can. Its billed - or used to be - as a fun event but it's a competitive sport and a coveted - if marmite - event to win and rightly so. 

But I stand by the observation that the Xenon years were the levellest playing field. Before that were 400s (Advantage home sailors, heavy crews, assy sailors), Ents (Before my time but I'd imagine home sailors, lightweights) and I believe GP14s in the distant past.


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Would only work if you only picked single handed winners,crew would have to be left out, makes it seem like they are only passengers to be discarded.
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Maybe every other year it should be in single handers. 
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Originally posted by Brass

Originally posted by Paramedic

Whilst I share the lack of enthusiasm to sail a boat like that I cant help but think that by using a mainstream class you end up handing a massive advantage to anyone who as sailed in the class before.


Won't that stick out like a sore thumb if you compare the top ten results with the results from the class nationals?

Yes.
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Originally posted by Paramedic

Whilst I share the lack of enthusiasm to sail a boat like that I cant help but think that by using a mainstream class you end up handing a massive advantage to anyone who as sailed in the class before.


Won't that stick out like a sore thumb if you compare the top ten results with the results from the class nationals?
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Originally posted by Rockhopper

[QUOTE=JimC]The Endeavour isn't everyone's cup of tea. I know a couple of folks who decided once was enough.[/QUOTE
I did it 2007 when they used Topper  zenons i decided after that if i made it again i would not go i got the offer for 2010 and passed on doing it again once was enough for me 

2007 was the year I did it too. Once is enough I agree especially if you are only making up the numbers like I was
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Whilst I share the lack of enthusiasm to sail a boat like that I cant help but think that by using a mainstream class you end up handing a massive advantage to anyone who as sailed in the class before.

Not wishing to take anything away from the achievement of the winner, there were many other experienced 200 sailors in that fleet! But I think the Xenon era was a more level playing field.
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