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17mika ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 03 Nov 06 Location: Italy Online Status: Offline Posts: 53 |
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Well, it was not in the UK nats, but in the Manta, the removeable Aero fairing of the windward wing can be used to cover the helm legs upwind.. let's talk about marginal, marginal, marginal aero gains ![]() My feeling regarding kit right now is that still there is a pretty big difference in the horizontal foils, where, especially downwind, the biekers have a small edge over other boats. Other very interesting discussion is about the vertical foil lenght, where different design came up with very different results! My perception right now is that most people seem to go for short verticals... there was a lot of discussion about the longer vertical helping righting moment when heeled upwind, but I guess having stiffer foils and less inertia makes the boat much easier, hence faster. |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Sorry, Goose, it's time to buzz the Tower....
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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there was a snapped mast on sunday on a green boat, about as far from the sailing centre as you could get of course. Poor guys was waiting for ages for help and only cos of Castle Cove committee signalling I think helped.
The moths looked awesome close up as they carved right through us waiting for the start of our racing
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Email from Y&Y yesterday linking to a article about accessible foiling, on the home page.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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[---]Wow - loads of great replies. Bringing two points together - I totally agree with the observation of DNFs and how that MUST mean the boats are far more robust than say 5 or 10 years ago. There was rarely too many questions raised about crew skill factor, even in low rider days within the class. I think the class needed this to really raise its game. I find it hard to argue that it's not the class the best sailors in the world aspire to race in... for actual fun. And that's supposed to be what it's all about. As for cost... well yep, it's not cheap, but there does seem to be a route in for aspiring people. Edited by turnturtle - 14 Jun 22 at 8:02am |
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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I can feel far more connected with Moths than the Olympic circus, the boats have a mast, sail and shrouds for a start. I suspect many of the sailors of the 70s and 80s, like myself, would have loved to have done the Moth thing.
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Happily living in the past
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Mark Aged 42 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 24 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 98 |
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I have the opposite feeling. As an aging weekend warrior, I smile broadly when I see these extreme boats being sailed so skilfully. I know my limits, but still feel connected to the Moths because we are all sailors. My racing experiences in my Laser are the exact opposite of Moth sailing, yet I bet I could have a beer with a Moth sailor and enjoy yacking about the common ground. Without the development classes, sailing would be a greyer world.
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Riv ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 13 Location: South Devon Online Status: Offline Posts: 353 |
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Moths are high above the water, helms are very skilled, racing is close,boats are reliable and the rules are open. If I had the money and really wanted to win I'd be booking time in a wind tunnel just like the cyclists do. I fully expect to see integrated streamlining of the wings based on tunnel data soon. It really is an obvious path to follow.
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Mistral Div II prototype board, Original Windsurfer, Hornet built'74.
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salmon80 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 119 |
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I actually find the Moths a bit depressing. Sure they are cool to look at but the cost is eyewatering and the level of dedication required to get good beyond the regular guy or girl...
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Grumpycat ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 29 Sep 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 497 |
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True but if it does happen there is a good chance it would be banned like it was in cycle racing in the 1920s
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