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    Posted: 12 Apr 22 at 12:40pm
Why is new boats built necessarily a measure of success? With all the talk of "Blue green" or whatever the RYA slogan surely keeping old boats going is to be applauded.

A little like measuring a country's success by GDP, if GDP includes police officers pay to combat crime and the production of disposable plastic cutlery............... 

See where I'm going with this??
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Other local classes not yet mentioned:
Brightlingsea One Design and Wivenhoe OD from Essex
Treaddur Bay Myth and Insect from Anglesey
Hoylake Opera OD
West Kirby Star OD
and so many that have been lost since 1960. 
I've been adding to the CVRDA Dinghy Database (http://www.cvrda.org) and keep finding many more. Pictures of these classes are what I lack so any contributions would be very welcome.



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Another Cornish OD...  St Mawes One Design (SMOD) – St Mawes Sailing Club
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Just noticed a race report from Burnham Overy Staithe, among the competitors was a Twinkle Twelve, terrific name!. I can't see why they didn't catch on.
There are a surprising number of these sort of clinker dinghies spread round the country, some mentioned already, others I can think of are the Seaview OD and the Aldborough Lapwing and there must be others. I suspect that they make up a non trivial proportion of the total dinghies sailed on a summer's weekend.
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The Hilbre One Design is a racing keelboat, built predominantly of wood with clinker construction. It has a fractional sloop rig, a spooned raked stem, a plumb transom, a transom-hung rudder controlled by a tiller and a fixed stub keel with a retractable centreboard.

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Originally posted by tink

Originally posted by eric_c

[QUOTE=fab100] Fowey still has Troys (keelboats in which I started crewing my dad, aged about 10) and the abomination that is the "Fowey River" class going stronger than ever.
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I'd add images if I could make the function work. But no. The hyperlink at least works for the Troy, but not the FR, which is, ironically, a kindness. Why is it so hard on this forum?


https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/photo/318561

Oh boy this post could get me in trouble on my next visit. Hey-ho
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Setting the spinnaker inside the jib is just... dodgy.

Seabird Half Rater at Abersoch and somewhere towards Liverpool, Wallasey?  Looks very similar, needs lots of bailing/pumping and sets the spinnaker inside the jib.  Very pretty and good in a sea way.  The old way to get them ready for the season when they had the caulking replaced was to let them sink in the harbour a few times and send some unlucky b$gger out to bail it out when the tide dropped!  I imagine they have gone over to epoxy but perhaps this tradition continues?
 

I saw that looks the same on the second boat ??
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In addition to the Solo I sail a Salcombe Yawl.  Although Salcombe Yacht Club includes starts for Yawls, the main events are three day opens at the Bank Holiday weekends and the Salcombe Yacht Club Regatta and Salcombe Town Regatta in August.

Although some Yawls existed pre-WW2, the class gradually gathered momentum post war when a Yawl was as an important an accessory as a RIB is today.

Two milestones were Y61 built by Peter Bungy Taylor, which was considered the first planing Yawl, and prompted some tighter rules to be adopted, and Y141 which was designed my Phil Morrison and exploited the lack of any rise of floor rules.  Most of the post 141 boats have been designed by Phil Morrison or Ian Howlett and race in the “Red” fleet.  189 have been built todate.

We get around 50 to 60 boats divided across three starts during regatta weeks, and racing in any of the fleets is close and to a high standard, since everyone in the fleet knows the fast route around the harbour, and kinetics are not an option to get you out of trouble.

Interest is as high as ever, with some very good younger (it’s a relative term) sailors joining the fleet, and presently there are very few of any good boats available, quite a few having changed hands in the past year.
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Lovely looking craft in their home harbour the Salcombe Yawl, the related, but not-the-same, Devon Yawl is also nice to sail, particularly good for a day sailing around estuaries or rivers ... IMO
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The Devon Yawl mould was taken off a Salcombe Yawl, and the rig reflects the Salcombe Yawl rig back in the sixties.  Good fleets at Topsham and the Yealm
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