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    Posted: 07 Apr 22 at 8:50am
Sailing on rivers, broads, tiny puddles etc does teach you good close quarter boat skills and the rules that go with it, because you HAVE to otherwise you just can’t race . 
When I started doing some opens and the odd nationals , I was very surprised at the number of sailors that sailed at larger waters that didn’t have these skills or even much knowledge of even simple rules , like the ones at marks.
So I always did well at the marks and the close quarter stuff, it’s just they would murder me on the long legs of the course which was out of my comfort zone .  LOL
As always, the top third in any fleet have no problems doing all these things . 
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yep, outsiders to broads sailing often are amazed at how close we sail to each other, in very confined spaces in very patchy winds... (picture courtesy Gregafloat)



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Thumbs Up Previously of Norfolk (Waveney Valley). Reed lined rivers and broads partially screened by carrs, some handy skills required.
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There is of course the Norfolk Dinghy.. Norfolk Dinghy

At and only at Horning Sailing club is the:

and the Reedling keelboat Reedling - Wikipedia

Then others Unique to the broads are:





The Slipstream dinghy (no web page for that sorry)

Then there is the Broads Cruiser class over 400 of them... the boats aren't all the same but they are peculiar to the broads.. History of the Class - River Cruiser Class
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Originally posted by 423zero

Like the look of both of them, fan of wooden boats though, saw the FR's racing a couple of years ago, look underpowered, probably a good thing, capsize and race over.

FRs are only good for filling with cement and using as a mooring for a decent boat.

But I have to say, the craftsmanship is a joy nevertheless. There are some brilliant Youtube videos of how Marcus Lewis builds them. But his Troys are better. Search also his story of finding and rebuilding T12, Barbara. Fantastic.
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Those spinnies hark back to the pre-war J-class style.

Most of the time, the Troys are in the harbour, where the wind can be so fluky it makes Frensham look like trade-winds. 

It might go up and down 3 or 4 times is half a mile, but rigged liked that, hoists and drops are seriously fast, even when I was 11.

Gybing them is interesting too. You get on the foredeck and just roll the pole up and thru the slot. none of this end-for-end nonsense. The tack stays tied to the pole end.

As a kid, the sheet would lift me off my feet, but the combing around the half deck would hold my hips like a jamb cleat. Happy days.

Typical crew is 3. one to steer, one to crew and one to pump out the sea flooding in over the side. Flat is slow. Let her lean!
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Looks like it is attached to the forestay?
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Originally posted by eric_c

[QUOTE=fab100] Fowey still has Troys (keelboats in which I started crewing my dad, aged about 10) and the abomination that is the "Fowey River" class going stronger than ever.
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I'd add images if I could make the function work. But no. The hyperlink at least works for the Troy, but not the FR, which is, ironically, a kindness. Why is it so hard on this forum?


https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/photo/318561

Oh boy this post could get me in trouble on my next visit. Hey-ho
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Setting the spinnaker inside the jib is just... dodgy.

I saw that looks the same on the second boat ??
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[QUOTE=fab100] Fowey still has Troys (keelboats in which I started crewing my dad, aged about 10) and the abomination that is the "Fowey River" class going stronger than ever.

I'd add images if I could make the function work. But no. The hyperlink at least works for the Troy, but not the FR, which is, ironically, a kindness. Why is it so hard on this forum?


https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/photo/318561

Oh boy this post could get me in trouble on my next visit. Hey-ho
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Setting the spinnaker inside the jib is just... dodgy.
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Like the look of both of them, fan of wooden boats though, saw the FR's racing a couple of years ago, look underpowered, probably a good thing, capsize and race over.
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