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    Posted: 09 Feb 22 at 5:14pm
Those nice people at Selden are offering to give your boat a free hardware fit out (all connect to the inaccessible show) 

Part of the blurb mentions ‘soft attachment blocks’ and got me thinking of recent hardware developments and what people’s experience of them is:
  • soft attachment block (blocks tied on with a bit of string)
  • low friction thimbles 
  • the resurgence of clam cleats with line guides etc (cam cleats are the only hardware I have ever known fail)
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Clam cleats on main halyards are probably the one thing I've replaced on every boat that's had one (or two). But I wouldn't choose to go back to those hook racks and wire halyards.
Soft attach blocks are great sometimes, other times a more controlled fixing like a flip-flop block is better.
I'm not a huge fan of stuff like LF rings or soft shackles just for the sake of it.
Best upgrade in my experience is auto ratchet blocks, but they are not a new invention. Anyone want a tufnol one for a classic dinghy?

TBH, most of the gear which makes up a scary sum on a new boat has not changed all that much in about 40 years.
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Classic. Pose-tastic tie on block, but it's just tied to a plain old deck saddle rivetted on.

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Having said that, possibly the biggest change from 'state of the art when I were a lad' is dyneema. In 1980, splicing was something old blokes did on gaffers. Now we use it a lot to simplify the string. But easily spliced plait dyneema is not new. One of my favourite upgrades is a spiro/'rocket launcher' kite pole system, but that was available when Ford Sierras were new.
Another big step I thought was boats like the RS400, where the deck moulding and some of the fittings/fit out were actually sorted out in a joined-up way. Still a t lot new-ish boats which look like someone bought a bare hull and then went shopping for blocks and cleats. And wedges and shims!
What have we actually done this century? forgotten about hydraulic rig adjustment? (that is perhaps not a bad thing?)
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I agree with Dyneema, splices and lashing. 8kg of steel and aluminium came off my Hornet. I'll weigh the box after it is finished to see how much went back on. Hopefully a lot less. Someone said, holes are cheap, weigh less and don't often break, so I'm using them and lashings where I can.
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Yes I remember we had a Tufnell one on our GP14 back in 1970.IIRC it was called a Novex block-great block.
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Found a commercial Tufnol block in my spares box a few days ago, It might get used on my refit of the boat.. I've built a few Tufnol blocks as well, when I was in Saudi, marine suppliers are thin on the ground, Tufnol was cheap as were the other materials, and I had access to a very good lathe..

The sheets and halyards fitted last Saturday are of course Dyneema... Still considering whether to go for Dyneema Shrouds..
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Originally posted by eric_c

]TBH, most of the gear which makes up a scary sum on a new boat has not changed at all in about 60 years.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote H2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 22 at 10:15am
What a gloomy bunch of old blokes - when I think back to my experience of sailing in the 80's and 90's and compare that with when I returned in the 20teens its surprising how much better / easier boats are to sail and in part that is due to better "hardware" throughout the boats we now sail.
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Quite right H2. I learnt to sail in an old sweater, plimsoles on my feet and bit of string round my glasses. Cotton sails that needed regular washing, hemp ropes - ditto, and a clinker boat that always leaked.

I'd say we've come a little way since then!
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