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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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Bailer not staying open or closed. Very floppy.
Again if memory serves. Premium Ropes are in Holland but mo problems buying them. |Adersen/Ronstan bailers......get the size and type right though. There's old and new and several sizes of bailer. |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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Is it an external fit?
If so its exceptionally difficult to reassemble the bailer without knackering the horrendously expensive new neoprene seal. Just buy a new bailer. This type are not as expensive as the internal mount and the new seal is (or was) half the price of a bailer for a hollow rectangle of self adhesive neoprene - there must be an alternative but use not found one that works. If its internal fit there are four or six (depending on size) copper rivets that hold together the two flanges that house a large rubber seal. The hard part with this is re-riveting the flanges back together. Again I'd just buy a new bailer. These last for 40+ years. Sorry!
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GybeFunny ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403 |
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It is internal fit, the document on the Rooster website makes it sound very simple, no riveting required:
I think I will have to bite the bullet and buy the repair kit and fit a new seal. Thanks.
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Chris_H ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 237 |
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I am not clear how replacing the seals fixes the friction issue .....
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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I think the seals in question are the ones that seal the chute and main body of the bailer not the ones between the bailer and the hull.
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Chris_H ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 237 |
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Ah, see it now in pic 4.2 of the linky
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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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OK, got a bit of time for a sensible answer now.
I have a lark with 2 floppy bailers, 2 different sizes. After some research it became clear that there are not only several sizes, Mini, Maxi and sizes inbetween, there are also old and new designs as well as internal and externally fitted Adersen/Ronstan bailer. Somewhere I found a website that had drawings c/w dimensions for the various types. I measured accuratelymy old bailer paying particular attention to the fixing hole centers. I identified my bailers Rooster does service kits but unfortunately, not the right ones for me. Found premium ropes, a Dutch company I beleive (but could be wrong, it was a while ago). the kit comes with gaskets for hull/bailer seal and gaskets for bailer bailer chasis/chute seal. The last gasket there is a chunky affair so obviously needs compressing considerably, it is held in place by compression also. After some searching I have found instructions for servicing bailers on the FF website. As for bailers being cheap enough to chuck away.....well, it's all relative I suppose but at £60-£70 quid a pop I'd have a go at servicing them. FF link (copy and paste it) https://www.flying15.org.uk/news/leaky-bailers Thats' as far as I've got and probably won't go any further. Edited by Sussex Lad - 14 May 21 at 9:56pm |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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My problem with fixing them - the external mount ones in particular - was that the service kit is horrendously, eye wateringly expensive. And success rate with them is poor. I'd rather bite the bullet with as guaranteed long lasting fix than spend half as much again on a service kit and a new bailer when the new seal gets destroyed refitting the chute.
It seems they have reduced the price for the New Large external mount bailer. But I still think the "right" fix in the long term is a new bailer. Edited by Paramedic - 14 May 21 at 1:05pm |
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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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Each to their own. I have on my desk a mug bought for me by my lovely Grand Children. It says on it "If Grand Dad can't fix it, no one can"...........I have a reputation to uphold. |
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GybeFunny ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403 |
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Thank you all for your thoughts, I will do some googling and measuring to figure out exactly what I have.
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