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    Posted: 19 Apr 21 at 12:18pm
Some British moths recently have used highfield levers on the shrouds , but they are narrow so putting them back is not a problem. . It seems to work ok  ( Though i did once see a mast jump out of the mast step because a sailor managed to let off both levers at the same time) .
Most modern British moths have adjustable shrouds with the controls led to the other side of the boat but then have a  fixed forestay . 
Most new british moths have either adjustable forestay or adjustable shrouds . Never both , I have no idea why Smile
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Originally posted by mongrel



Tasars use this, its only control by a 2:1 line & cleat at the base of the shroud, on a development boat you could add control lines for this method.


Thanks for that intel we have a couple of tasars racing at our place now I'll check them out.

Originally posted by Old bloke

Using a Highfield lever (invented by Mr Highfield acc to Wikipedia) to let off the leeward shroud is well known, however, getting forwards and to leeward in a singlehandedly to put it off and on again might be fun to watch


Is that the lever the Contenders use, it's only on things like a dead run in light conditions so I can get the boom out to the max, good to hear it's a 'thing' and not one of my nutter moments.

Oh and thanks for all this, it's one of the really good points of this forum, all this experience wasting away in front of computer screens..

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Using a Highfield lever (invented by Mr Highfield acc to Wikipedia) to let off the leeward shroud is well known, however, getting forwards and to leeward in a singlehandedly to put it off and on again might be fun to watch
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Originally posted by Do Different

Sailing by the lee may be faster but it doesn't make it right.  Wink


Had another thought has a shroud ‘traveller’ arrangement ever been tried? So they move forward and aft as you rake the rig?
Tasars use this, its only control by a 2:1 line & cleat at the base of the shroud, on a development boat you could add control lines for this method.
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Sailing by the Lee gives you more efficient "Lee bowing"
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By braid I mean a rope with no cover - just the high strength core-doesn’t stretch and can be easily spliced back onto itself using a fid.
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Originally posted by Do Different

Sailing by the lee may be faster but it doesn't make it right.  Wink


Had another thought has a shroud ‘traveller’ arrangement ever been tried? So they move forward and aft as you rake the rig?
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Sailing by the lee may be faster but it doesn't make it right.  Wink
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What you need is a telescopic goose neck, one string to lengthen, when it reaches the optimum length, it articulates to allow boom to go further forward.
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Originally posted by tink

There was an unstated trapeze boat back in the 80s, alloy mast.  If the market thought a new trapeze boat would sell they could easily produce an unstated trapeze boat. Too late on a Sunday to do the maths . Like it or not any growth or at least slowing of the decline is in existing classes, hiking boats and single handed boats. Adding beam, wings etc are replacing trapezes and D-One, RS300, Waszp prove an unstayed mast is up to the job. 


The base of that mast was the size of a tree trunk. Mind, 40 years on the technology might reduce that somewhat, but physics is still against you. Trapezes are more fun than wings.

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