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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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Yes. The main obstacle in overcoming this problem is that most sailors don't or won't understand the notion that other peoples perceptions are totally different to theirs. They don't understand why anyone would have a different perspective. Several years ago I asked my wife "why aren't there more women in politics?" she replied "because we have better and more important things to do". Needless to say I now understand her perspective a little better. |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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The thing that some people fail to acknowledge is that the whole inclusion issue is a two way street.
It is an anthropological reality that we are all programmed to be tribal. All perceptions from every group are clouded by a tribal view. I suggest that there is a majority in the non white/male/middle class/ tribe who view the sailing tribe as one they absolutely have no interest in joining. Obviously I'm struggling to name an example because being a white country dweller I know little of other ethnic groups. I don't know, say, are Reggae clubs wringing hands because they attract very few white teenagers?
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Hence the resistance to windsurfers having a Yardstick? Not very inclusive, the RYA, took years for us to even be allowed to sail at some clubs and even now i bet we're still banned on certain days at certain clubs,(Bewl) maybe we should have considered encouraging more ethnic riders, oh wait, we had loads, we just didn't notice. |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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I wasn't saying tribalism is a good thing, simply a reality which has to be acknowledged and overcome. "maybe we should have considered encouraging more ethnic riders, oh wait, we had loads, we just didn't notice." Exactly! the (as it feels to me) current fixation of society on labels seems to do harm and cause division. "What do you identify as?" Who cares, just get on and stop flag waving.
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Oinks ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Oct 14 Location: Bandol Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
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A good few years back, a few of us sat outside having a beer after racing, and 2 black fellas rock up and start rigging a Fireball. They seemed to know what they were doing and gave us a friendly wave which we reciprocated. So late afternoon on a sunny Sunday, F4-5, they launched, and sailed around for an hour or so, falling in, blasting and having a fine old time. We could hear the laughter from the shore. They came and had a beer with us after and we had a good old laugh with them. Shame was we never saw them again!
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Grumpycat ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 29 Sep 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 497 |
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Peaky’ s comment about this thread is totally correct
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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No, but it's totally true, the latest over use of the racist term these days, racist is just another word to describe Human Tribalism, Group identities breed problems, Nations, Races, Religions, Gangs, Football Supporters, it will ever be so, until we start to fully understand how close to animals we still remain and how much further we have yet to evolve if we ever want a truly peaceful co existence. Edited by iGRF - 29 Mar 21 at 4:49pm |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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I think that pretty sums up my club, I wouldn't say we have ever had loads of non-white members but we certainly have never "noticed" those web have had. This is why I found the so called "diversity" days so patronising.
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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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Sounds remarkably like a rationalisation to justify racism. It is entirely possible to have a group identity without being scared of other groups just because they are other. .....ah well. |
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Grumpycat ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 29 Sep 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 497 |
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Well said
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