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    Posted: 26 Mar 21 at 9:19pm
The stats are pretty much incomprehensible to anybody but a statistician  and I'll bet they cost a fortune to prepare...  Censored
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It’s clearly not in the least bit controversial to want to make boating accessible and attractive to all.

I find the table on page 21 quite hard to believe though - white people are under represented and black people over represented in water sports, including RYA activities. I am not comfortable making such binary distinctions between people based on skin pigmentation but that stat doesn’t resemble my sailing club.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 21 at 8:43pm
The fact his is even a forum thread is reason to acknowledge it is required
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris_H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 21 at 5:58pm
I can’t see why anyone would have an issue with their policy and strategy. All makes sense and probably long overdue.

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CASC clubs have had this for years, you can't refuse anyone who wants to join, even, if they can't afford the subs, you can't even sanction members who refuse to do their duty.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 21 at 2:01pm
How many family memberships do you have where both partners are active sailors? And how do you know they have not discussed how to use their vote when it is the male member who sticks his hand up? I agree that allowing family memberships two votes could well be a good thing but that could result in one member casting both votes* rather than both members using their votes independently so not entirely the solution.

* Obviously when AGMs return and attendance is require to exercise your vote that issue would be solved.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote andymck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 21 at 1:18pm
It actually goes very deep in sailing in the uk.
One very Important discrepancy that we have noted is the massive sex discrepancy on voting rights within one of the clubs I am a member of.
Each family membership only has one vote who is registered when they join.
Family membership is one of the largest categories.
This has led to 80% of the voting members being male. The female members have been left with no ability to affect change. This was noted because there are so few female members on our committee.
There has been a discussion to possibly grant a second vote to family memberships to help address this.

What do other clubs do?

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Haven't read it, probably won't but I do wonder how many Sailing Clubs still have the ability to black ball applications for membership, for any reason? It was still in the constitution of our club not so long ago, clearly they didn't like just anyone joining and let's face it who of us would want to join a club that would let people like us be a member anyway? (to paraphrase Groucho Marx)
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Good on the RYA.  I am generally dismissive of whatever “woke” means, but it is time for our sport to move on from the attitudes of 1950’s (despite my strap line).  I followed a similar thread on a ski forum following a pretty crass item on Ski Sunday about ethnicity and reflected that sailing seems to be a similarly WASP activity.  So if the RYA, who have no doubt paid consultants to produce this report and policy statement, well done.  It doesn’t take very long to read it and the concepts are neither difficult to comprehend or implement.  My only caveat, and this applies to a host of WASPish sports is that, are there factors apart from the barriers of cost and class that make sailing unattractive to “diversity” groups which will never make the sport appealing to them?  

Incidentally my children define “woke” simply that there is no need to be unpleasant and cause offence to people,  sometimes this is hard to do and we fail, but imo this is not a bad ethos.
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Has anyone got any views on this?

Yes, glad to see it.
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