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    Posted: 18 Oct 20 at 8:13am
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Originally posted by sandgrounder

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Who is the intellectual rights holder of the Laser design? We know LPE own the trademark for the Laser name and sail insignia...


Designer Bruce Kirby sold the design rights to Global Sailing, a New Zealand company, which also owns PSA.

All the current ILCA builders pay royalties to Global Sailing

I thought that never completed and BKI were the ones who took LP to court?


ILCA website, August 25, 2020:-

"In addition to these fees, all builders will continue the ex gratis designer fee of $US50 per hull historically paid to Bruce Kirby Inc. This fee will now be paid to Global Sailing Ltd, which has purchased the assets of Bruce Kirby Inc."


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Originally posted by sandgrounder

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Who is the intellectual rights holder of the Laser design? We know LPE own the trademark for the Laser name and sail insignia...


Designer Bruce Kirby sold the design rights to Global Sailing, a New Zealand company, which also owns PSA.

All the current ILCA builders pay royalties to Global Sailing

I thought that never completed and BKI were the ones who took LP to court?
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Spot on 
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Who is the intellectual rights holder of the Laser design? We know LPE own the trademark for the Laser name and sail insignia...


Designer Bruce Kirby sold the design rights to Global Sailing, a New Zealand company, which also owns PSA.

All the current ILCA builders pay royalties to Global Sailing
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Unfortunately for ILCA, LPE own the rights.
EurILCA, voted recently whether to break away from ILCA and UKLA, vote was tied, (some of EurILCA committee members are also members of 'the laser class' TLC).
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Who is the intellectual rights holder of the Laser design? We know LPE own the trademark for the Laser name and sail insignia...
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Is that official ? 
ILCA can't even use sail names.

4.  ILCA sails are known as ILCA 7 (Standard), ILCA 5 (Radial) and ILCA 4 (4.7) due to the rights held by the intellectual property owners of the usual names.
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There was nothing false about the copyright claim. It was a blatant steal. They even ripped off the drawings.
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It would seem that few of those involved in this madness have realised that as toys are thrown around the playpen, the only possible result will be increased sales of other single handers.
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Getting nasty.

TheLaserClass.com and uk.TheLaserClass.com are temporarily down due to ILCA falsely claiming to the site hosts that the Class Rules posted was copyright infringement of the ILCA construction manual. Unfortunately, this is not the first time this type of harassment has happened, and we had hoped ILCA would stop spending sailors’ time and money on such endeavors. We apologize that you are the caught in the crossfire and are the ones affected by ILCA’s actions. The Laser Class is exploring all options and is working to resolve this quickly so we can continue supporting Laser sailors.
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