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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I can't remember the exact date but it was back in the financial crisis recession, they were being piled high and sold cheap at the Southampton Boat show one year when we were working there, they were around three grand from memory then. |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Ay my little puddle we have seen 3 new class compliant (to satisfy the snowflakes) boats in the last 12 months. Other have boats which are used but still only a few years old. So the answer is more than you think.
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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The inkjet cartridge pricing model makes massive sense in a class like a laser, and there can be little doubt that the markup on things like sails and spars in percentage terms must have been significantly larger than on the hull. Going forward LPE are not going to have that boost and you wonder how sustainable their price for the boat can be?
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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So what's the deal with SailJuice series events.... will Farzad boats be allowed to sail as 'Lasers' or not?
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Going forward LPE are not going to have that boost and you wonder how sustainable their price for the boat can be? If non sustainable they will not survive - conversally if 'alternatives' are blatantly over-priced ditto for that version. The model that LPE are likely to pursue is of 'excellent value' and go for club level and institutional volume sales. The ILCA model no doubt will stress their 'circus' credentials - after all something like £3k extra is 'well worth it' surely ?! However if in the next decade sailing gets dropped from the Olympics or possibly the ILCA boat gets replaced while sailing is retained it is doomed. Personally I'd lean in the direction of the volume model that is less vulnerable to critical decisons made by other organisations. So if ILCA prices start getting discounted you can draw your own conclusions as to exactly how their commercial model and sentiment are developing !!
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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I think it will be hard for them to find grounds to refuse given theft they are Lasers. LPE are contravening no laws, IP rights, trade marks or patents by building and selling the boats.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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http://eurilca.org/ready-for-2020-senior-europeans-gdansk/
Almost 300 boats, is this first ILCA event? |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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You can enter as an Laser but not an ILCA. Once has a recognised international CA and class rules one doesn't..... No reason to stop them entering but distinguishing would be needed even if they lumped the 2 together for the purposed of 'fleet' results.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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TBF I don't think anybody entering a LPE Laser is going to be claiming it is an ILCA. I'll be interesting to see if the RYA asks clubs to distinguish between Laser/ILCA and LPE Laser in the returns.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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And if they did, then it’s logical to assume the one sold to squaddies and travellers would perform better, therefore have a lower PN than the grunt boat for weekend warriors... so you get a better handicap with a Rastegar boat? Grumpf will have a field day....
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