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    Posted: 06 Oct 20 at 7:10am
iGRF sums this up perfectly ... praise where it is due
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 20 at 8:24pm
I very much doubt that.. Nobody I know and we have a fair number of laserati, would consider buying a Laser new, it'll just be the province of the squad wannabes and their blighted parents. I don't see the Aero being stopped anytime soon it's going from strength to strength, well as much strength has remains in this dwindling market.

As to my new understanding there are two sources of the Laser now, Laser as defined by the folk that have been building it for years, and Laser as defined by World Sailing and builders with accreditation from them.

Nobody outside of the five ring troposphere will give a toss and my bet is sales will continue via that laserperformance website as confusing as it is (What is the difference between a Laser Race and a Laser XD did the not do the same thing?) As to those Arc rigs they should have done that ten years ago, too late now that boat has sailed.

So I wonder if you buy an accredited boat then buy spare parts from the old site, will that nullify it's use as a class legal boat.
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ILCA will totally dominate single hander sales, Aero caught on due to problems with Laser, now its sorted, Laser and ILCA sales will unfortunately decimate them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 20 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by 423zero

https://laserperformance.uk/pages/arc-rigs-code-for-first-blog-post
Sort of misses the point of who sails the Laser, 

a) Club sailors who want cheap equal racing and a new replica sail is an infrequent purchase
b) Youth squad, Olympic wannabes  and serious traveler racers who will be Laser /  ILCA conformists all day. 

If you want the advantages of this rig you buy and Aero and slot into all there fantastic events. 
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ARC rig looks pants to my untrained eye but on the other hand quite a lot friends who work in boat and sail making seem to agree with me . 



Edited by Grumpycat - 05 Oct 20 at 6:28pm
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https://laserperformance.uk/pages/arc-rigs-code-for-first-blog-post
https://www.sailingchandlery.com/collections/laser-boats-buy-a-laser/products/laser-xd-standard-boat-package-composite-mast

Edited by 423zero - 05 Oct 20 at 7:28pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paramedic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 20 at 4:22pm
Originally posted by Cirrus


To me it is looking increasingly like a group of rival manufacturers arguing about the rights and technical issues associated  with 'Betamax' or 'VHS' products.... etc

Fully agree.

I was surprised Ovi signed up - but they must think they can earn out of it or they wouldn't? There may well be (Most likely is) info out there that we are not party to.

We will have to wait and see!
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Word is that the carbon top section allied with a mark 2 sail is more powerful and has pushed the ideal helm weight up a few KG from what was 78-80kg ?
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Originally posted by Grumpycat

I could be wrong , I often am but I have seen no evidence that the radial sails and carbonish top masts make a noticeable difference to laser/ILCA boat speed . 

We have noticed a definite step in speed for people who use Mk2 sails over Mk1s (even a new Mk1).

Carbon top sections are another matter, we only have a couple of people who have only just started using them so time will tell.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 20 at 11:15am
There could almost be a need for a third Laser/ILCA Association or maybe LICALaser that administers a levelish equipment playing field at club level ... the LPE product is at a great price to grow the sport at grassroots level, but problems need some rules to control an arms race in knock off sails and equipment
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