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    Posted: 03 Oct 20 at 8:14pm
Well, it's been my experience that 'rival' associations 'set up' to challenge whatever the particular status quo happens to be in place, rarely if ever succeed and definitely have no bearing in the reality of grass roots membership. At the end of the day at our level (club racers) we're just going to race anything that is vaguely Laser shaped as long as its cheap enough. What goes on in the atmospheric world of international competition other than the trickle down cheap hulls, nobody either bothers to know or even care about. So there never is going to be a 'right' or 'wrong' Laser, there are just going to be cheap or expensive and only one of them is going to win out.
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Originally posted by Rupert

turning someone away because they have the "wrong" Laser.

If the event is for boats of the International Laser Class, then they have little choice. And if a competitor chose to protest a boat for not being 'legal' then they would win the protest and it would be a very short hearing.
Its been the case for many years that if you turn up at a UKLA supported open with a replica sail you will be turned away*, no matter how faithful a replica it is. What on earth makes you think the situation would or even should be any different with replica hulls?

*or possibly loaned a legal sail - at my club we tried to do this.

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Will be interesting to see what PY committee comes up with, when Laser and ILCA results start to come in?
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A bigger elephant in the room is the mk2 sails and carbon topmasts.
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I could be wrong , I often am but I have seen no evidence that the radial sails and carbonish top masts make a noticeable difference to laser/ILCA boat speed . 

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Originally posted by Grumpycat


I could be wrong , I often am but I have seen no evidence that the radial sails and carbonish top masts make a noticeable difference to laser/ILCA boat speed . 


I think the top mast is mainly about reducing cost overall as you break less of them. The alloy ones amongst the serious dailors seem to get bent regularly and are then no use.
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That was my thought too .  Smile
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That's certainly the declared intention. As to whether it has succeeded, well that would take a carefully structured trial.
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you only need someone to think they're better and they become "must have" unfortunately.
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We had an Ovi ILCA appear at our club yesterday. The hull-deck join seemed a bit more substantial and is properly gel-coated over for a seemless look n feel. And its just white, not that fugly ice-blue white LP were using. Otherwise, seemed just as you’d expect and certainly was not discernibly faster than its owners previous boat
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