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Mozzy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
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If you're a class association then members are paying in part for that committee to organise events.
It's also odd to point at government guidance and the RYA when the reason is actually something else (capacity at venue, volunteers, economics with no social, low turnout due to limited social). Phantom sailors will be left scratching their head to what government guidance and RYA advice allows a laser nationals, but not a phantom one. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Online Posts: 6662 |
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Saves having to argue the toss endlessly with sea lawyers who've got their own frequently ludicrous interpretations. People who witter on about the need for complete transparency in everything rarely have any experience of how much hassle, stress, and most of all precious time is squandered trying to satisfy people who aren't going to listen anyway... Edited by JimC - 03 Aug 20 at 12:54pm |
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Mozzy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
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That's quite understandable if that is the reason. But if true, why wouldn't the class say so. It seems odd to point vaguely at government and RYA advice, when neither of those organisations are putting out advice which would (directly) stop a sailing event.
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Many clubs rely on potentially at risk groups to provide the race management, who might not be quite so keen to volunteer for a group of visitors from higher risk areas.
Also, the Devon and Cornwall residents are ever so nervous about a lift off of Covid 19 due to visitors, we could argue at length at the pros and cons of this, but there are groups in many seaside towns where a group of incoming dinghy sailors might be like a red rag to a bull. Which will no doubt be a disappointment to Cornish pasty makers!
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Mozzy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
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I wonder why the phantoms cancelled?
https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/230555/Phantom-2020-Nationals-Cancelled The article cites RYA and government advice, but with no specifics. I don't see anything which would preclude on the water activity, especially single handers. Perhaps they just couldn't make the event economically viable without a full bar program? |
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PeteM ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Oct 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
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Rupert, I'll bear that in mind! Up to now it has been pretty gentle, we're not planning on going out in manic winds. We're trying to be aware of the situation and take reasonable precautions whilst enjoying our sailing. As the RYA update referred to by Mozzy says - we're not a contact sport and we're not using the same cricket/tennis balls etc. but we still need to be aware, and we're trying to do that.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Apparantly a wet, spray filled mask feels like you are drowning, so take care with that! |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Mozzy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
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RYA updated their guidance a couple of days ago.
"Is it appropriate for people from different households to sail together in the same dinghy,
keelboat or yacht? The Government is trusting people to continue to act responsibly and follow the guidance on what they should and should not do. Therefore, participants will have to make their own decisions on whether they can sail their dinghy, keelboat or yacht whilst maintaining adequate social distancing. From the 4th July social distancing remains at 2 metres unless you use mitigating measures which will allow a reduction to 1 metre plus. On a boat, these mitigations could include (in addition to being outdoors) 1m separation marks on the deck, wearing face coverings, avoiding face to face contact, cleaning procedures, no shouting etc. The risk should be assessed case by case and with the correct mitigation in place, it may now be possible for up to 6 people from different households to sail certain boats. It is the responsibility of the members concerned to ensure they adhere to social distancing measures when sailing together. Clubs should encourage safe sailing, but are not responsible for enforcing social distancing measures between members on the water sailing together in the same boat. (Updated 15th July)."
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PeteM ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Oct 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
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I thought it may be useful to share my experience last week in the Osprey - 17ft 6" so it's a long boat. My crew and I take temps in the morning and will bail out if either feel unwell. Someone mentioned racing - interesting up wind, even in a boat that long, I still would get my front leg over the thwart and sit as far forward as possible in light winds, really can't do that now, so a tadge slower upwind. With a big Genoa the crew normally tacks facing backwards - again a point of closeness. We'll try masks this Sunday. Everything else is fine to keep a reasonable distance. But it is a long boat!! Hope this helps anyone thinking of getting back in their 2 man boat!
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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You have plenty of room to tie boats up, you could even have a slip way in and a slip way out, hope everything goes well.
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