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    Posted: 13 Jul 20 at 6:01am
What did they say last Friday? Any sort of link? I have given up listening to them.
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Exactly as above.

I've written off racing for this year, whatever we manage for what's left it'll be such a cobble up and chew on as to not be worth the grief.

Free sailing simply for the pleasure of being out and doing quite a bit of back lane and forest track cycling, feeling good for doing both.  


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Originally posted by zeon

  this forum is dead and really does just need a trip to dignitas .  Ouch

Its been dead for many a year, with the same old soaks making the posts - maybe a handul of people at best. When was the last time anybody new contributed? Restart Sailing on FB is where I hang out now (and it apppearss many more than on here too) for info on the current situation - informative and interesting and not made up of the usual bollox on  here from the usual bollox


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Originally posted by Rupert

People have gone sailing instead?
Agreed, we resumed more formal racing at Salcombe at the weekend; fifteen or so Solos and probably as many in the Handicap Fleet.  One person in the Race Box and two Household double manned “patrol” boats.  Lovely afternoon and from a racing perspective was a return to normal.

The estuary and particularly the shared slipway was bonkers with recreational craft launching and recovering as were an unusual number of anglers popping up at unexpected places ... would appear that lots of people were taking advantage of the relaxed restrictions ... and good for them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 20 at 8:03am
Usual non contributing rubbish from the same faces.
Nice one Davidyacht, I couldn't sail Saturday, hay-fever gave me a gravelly voice, sounded like covid.
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Originally posted by A2Z

Originally posted by Mozzy

The line I am drawing (not in same boat  = not 'with') is at least based on rationale of virus transmission. 
Your interpretation seems to hinge on a scheduled, promoted, race taking place over a defined racecourse at a prescribed time not being considered a gathering or meeting.  Good luck with that.
 

Well, what happened last week was confirmation that two separate boats, even if doing the same race were not a gathering. The gathering is on 'a boat'. Which makes total sense to anyone except those looking for a reason to stop racing. 

Where there is a limit, it is dependent upon what clubs can handle shore side. Which again, makes total sense. That is not a specific number, but dependent on the physical capacity and mitigation in place.

Last week we also had some more information on team sports where social distancing cannot be achieved. This could signal the return of competition for teams from different households in the coming weeks. 

Cricket resumed last weekend. The RYA has to submit their plan the PHE for approval. In some ways sailing teams are more risky, in that you spend considerable time within 1m of another person. However, the 'population' of those that you get close to is very small, usually just the one person. So, from that perspective the risk of spreading it to many teammate and opponents is  small. 

I think going forward we're going to have to all do a bit of risk assessment ourselves. What are our risks, what are the risks of the person we are sailing with. And what is the risk to the people we'll have contact with in the days after sailing. 

Obviously this will make those who need instruction directly from Boris very uneasy. 

Team sport guidance https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-phased-return-of-sport-and-recreation/return-to-recreational-team-sport-framework

RYA 'multiple boats racing aren't a gathering (based on DCMS clarification)'. https://www.rya.org.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/clubs/COVID%20guidance%20to%20racing.pdf


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 20 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by zeon


Originally posted by Rupert

People have gone sailing instead?

I do hope so  Smile


Sadly, I was actually at work so not posting yesterday, but hope many were sailing. Sunday has traditionally been dead on here.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Usual non contributing rubbish from the same faces.
Nice one Davidyacht, I couldn't sail Saturday, hay-fever gave me a gravelly voice, sounded like covid.

You have my sympathies. The only thing I could do to alleviate symptoms in my yoof was to go sailing. Fortunately our club was surrounded by dust not crops or grass. Sailing at the coast was even better. I have now mainly 'grown out of it'.
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Originally posted by Mozzy


Well, what happened last week was confirmation that two separate boats, even if doing the same race were not a gathering. The gathering is on 'a boat'. Which makes total sense to anyone except those looking for a reason to stop racing. 

Where there is a limit, it is dependent upon what clubs can handle shore side. Which again, makes total sense. That is not a specific number, but dependent on the physical capacity and mitigation in place.

The decision re 2+ boats was always going to be common sense.
 
I agree for some venues shoreside is a deal breaking problem, and that self management is the way forward. Other venues may be able to work around it - these could be in demand in 2021!

I am a little worried that some classes/organisations seem to be trying to run a marathon before we've walked around the block. Conservative and considerate is still the message!

There is now no reason whatsoever why we cant start down the path towards near normal club racing.


Edited by Paramedic - 13 Jul 20 at 5:07pm
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