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    Posted: 17 Jun 20 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by zeon

Which shows where we totally disagree. I believe in the law and I have never broken lockdown law in the last 9 weeks . You seem believe in something called the ‘ spirit  of the law‘ which is something that means something different everyone and is just total bol@@ks 
Shame that you think responsibility, empathy and decency are total bol@@ks.
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Originally posted by H2

Folks, I have given up arguing with A2Z. I suspect he is just one of those people who is always "right". A very vocal minority in the UK seem to be trying to set the rules for the rest of us based upon their own interpretation which is heavily influenced by fear and a desire that we all just crawl under a rock and hide. A while back I decided to just ignore them and get on with my racing because frankly - I do have access to really senior people involved in writing the laws your discussing and I can assure you that there is zero chance that the police will be locking anyone up for sailing!
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Originally posted by H2

Folks, I have given up arguing with A2Z. I suspect he is just one of those people who is always "right". A very vocal minority in the UK seem to be trying to set the rules for the rest of us based upon their own interpretation which is heavily influenced by fear and a desire that we all just crawl under a rock and hide. A while back I decided to just ignore them and get on with my racing because frankly - I do have access to really senior people involved in writing the laws your discussing and I can assure you that there is zero chance that the police will be locking anyone up for sailing!
Gosh, good for you.  Your interpretation is that scheduling a fleet race for over 6 boats doesn’t breach the law or the intention of govt advice. Mine is that it does, because I fail to see how it isn’t a gathering.  That isn’t influenced by fear, it is influenced on my layman’s understanding of what a gathering is.  
Your interpretation is driven by impatience and a desire to appear macho.  As is your constant need to tell us you have access to really senior people.  
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I used to have access to a really senior person. She was 104.
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I would imagine most people in sailing know senior people, speaking for myself, I can't recall talking to anyone about what they do for a living, I would imagine most of the people at my club have a better job than me and probably more money, but, I haven't felt that they treat me any differently than rest of members, this for me is the most attractive feature of sailing.
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Originally posted by H2

Folks, I have given up arguing with A2Z. I suspect he is just one of those people who is always "right". A very vocal minority in the UK seem to be trying to set the rules for the rest of us based upon their own interpretation which is heavily influenced by fear and a desire that we all just crawl under a rock and hide. A while back I decided to just ignore them and get on with my racing because frankly - I do have access to really senior people involved in writing the laws your discussing and I can assure you that there is zero chance that the police will be locking anyone up for sailing!

Whilst I agree with what you say about a vocal minority, and I disagreed fervently with A2Z on whether sailing was or should be allowed, I think on this one he is right. I think Hayling have jumped the gun, and we have at least one Hayling member struggling to justify what they did - sorry guys, you got it wrong and you've been called out by people you must have known would be watching. This isn't the first error in this crisis and out won't be the last.

It doesn't bother me if HISC cause the harbour council to specifically ban dinghy racing in Chichester Harbour, but I can think of plenty of other people who will be none too pleased. 
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Not sure I said sailing shouldn’t be allowed?  I’ve done plenty of sailing in the last couple of weeks. Just not in organised groups of more than 6.  
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Originally posted by A2Z

Not sure I said sailing shouldn’t be allowed?  I’ve done plenty of sailing in the last couple of weeks. Just not in organised groups of more than 6.  

Maybe it wasn't you - I know i was very much on the other side of the fence to a number of people re free sailing.
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That’s alright.  One or two on here like to paint me as a curtain twitching kill-joy living in fear.  In fact, all I have done is question whether organised races are allowed.  

As the great majority of clubs are not yet organising races suggests to me that most committees think it a. isn’t allowed or b. isn’t sensible.  There is nothing particularly unique about HISC, Shustoke or South Cerney that would facilitate safer racing at those venues.  It is those clubs that are in the minority.  To question their actions is legitimate.
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To take a positive ... at least other clubs will be more aware of the dangers of raising their heads above the parapet 
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