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Cirrus 
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 Topic: Hybrid !Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 5:27pm |
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Of course nobody noticed it's April the 1st and he had a bunch of unused Icon hulls laying about Well I might have wanted to 'troll the trolls' as well and today would have seemed the right time. But it hopefully gives people something different to kick around and think about at the moment as well. Anyway it is a 'one-off' and is intended to refine a few interesting ideas 'stolen' from other boats, nearly all of which I've had the opportunity to sail and even race. Development is done that way and is often a process of refinement and optimisation. Ask nicely when some relative sanity eventually returns and you might get to try 'Hybrid' for yourself - for a beer maybe ! This is not necessarily a commercially motivated effort btw - I'm done with building boats myself, I'll leave that to others now, but still like to try out ideas from time to time for myself. Perhaps a few others out there can show us their 'Hybrids' as well ... This particular season is going to be rather long and tedious.
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iGRF
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Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 5:14pm |
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Big Fat heads are only any use for light to low medium winds, once any breeze from about force 3 up occurs you're just carrying around so much parasitic drag, I'm hoping this has enough to get me out on the wire in 8 knots instead of 10 and it will twist off rather than just flop, flack and drag like big Fat heads tend to. I've not seen it in the flesh, but he's a keen young sailmaker who uses what he makes and is handy, I've been ear bashing him since the dawn of time about the natural superiority of windsurfer style twist over dinghys and like Dan Holman obviously did with that Punk rig, I think he's got the message. It's a bit hooky and full upfront for my normal taste, but I've had to come to accept that is the way of dinghy world as the boats don't plane like raceboards (which are at the absolute minimum three times the weight) so need more torque.
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 4:56pm |
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New fat head 3.7 sail looks quite nice. You've been more conservative with it than I thought you would.
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423zero
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Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 4:50pm |
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Too late, it was after 12.00
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iGRF
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Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 4:48pm |
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Of course nobody noticed it's April the 1st and he had a bunch of unused Icon hulls laying about...
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H2
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Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 3:57pm |
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H2 and a D0 had a child. I like it!
However, if I wanted a boat that was really nice to hike I would keep my H2 but if I wanted a boat that was more like a D0 but that carried more weight and I was willing to be on my knees downwind then it looks great. Only question would be whether the rig was big enough? Most of the boats that aim at the bigger guys continue to feel a little under powered in my view, but that is a minor point! Edited by H2 - 01 Apr 20 at 4:20pm |
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H2 #115 (sold)
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iGRF
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Because there is a gaping great hole where a sensible trapeze single hander should be, so we don't have to continue with the absurd notion that 15 grand gets you over 100 kilos to lug about... And why can't there be a boat where you make a choice of trapeze or racks, they both pretty much do the same thing, except one looks much cooler and doesn't bugger your knees. Then we won't have to bugger about ordering new sails to make our Farr 37s go early enough to cope with the Laserati off the start line.. 
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Cirrus
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Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 3:13pm |
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Not a Blaze rig ... though the mast is v.similar to both Icon and the Blaze 'family'. Not H2 in terms of general ‘bulk’ or freeboard but with a bit more (v.necessary imo) than say a Zero. The original concept was for an exceptionally easily driven simple hiking hull but not to the point of becoming ‘demanding’ light and simple but capable of carrying a reasonable weight. The hull underwater is almost pure Icon, (cos that one really is slippery yet ‘easy’) but it is 215mm (9") shorter and the freeboard is very much less than found on an Icon or H2. The sail in the pics is in fact based on an early Icon development main but modified by Dick Batt to suit the rig dimensions and rake. (The boom is currently made from old Blaze outer wing tubes – cos I was waiting too long for a larger diameter tube to arrive) So NS14 inspired with touches of Blaze, Icon. and yes even some H2 and Zero in there if you like ! This concept is much lighter than say a Blaze and if ever in full epoxy would be much lighter still. Edited by Cirrus - 01 Apr 20 at 3:20pm |
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Rupert
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Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 3:00pm |
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More soap dish than the H2. My knees would hate it, I'm afraid.
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getafix
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Posted: 01 Apr 20 at 2:46pm |
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quite H2-esque some might say ....
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