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    Posted: 02 Mar 20 at 7:01am
Originally posted by armadillos

Whilst a central Midlands venue would have been the most sensible option. I am sure that the NEC would have been prohibitively expensive for most associations and businesses. As a commercial exhibitor this year and many times an association exhibitor, I think Farnborough is a very good move by the RYA. Having lived in Basingstoke for many years, only 20-30 minutes away, the road links to almost anywhere in the country are better than trying to get into
London. We are east coast based now so it is further but the reality is that it will be logistically much easier. As someone who generally has no confidence in the direction the RYA is taking the sport I am quite impressed that they have finally made a positive decision.

What would have been even better in my view would have been to run it from marquees at a venue such as Grafham or Rutland giving visitors the option of seeing and trying boats on the water. Perhaps they should resurrect the Try-a-Boat days that were a huge success in the late 80’s in addition to the Dinghy Show.

Soeak for yourself, coming from East Anglia getting round the M25 between the M40 and the M3 is always a nightmare. I can't see me attending unless I make a weekend of it and tie it in with a family trip down that way.
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Nearer for me, but when I thought, pooh, hop on a train, it turned out to be 3 trains and a bus from Swindon, and twice the time it would be by car.

I guess it must be cheap, but even somewhere in the East Midlands, like the RYA conferences (equally difficult for everyone) might have been better. No idea if there are big spaces out there, but can't believe there aren't.
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Originally posted by Rupert

Nearer for me, but when I thought, pooh, hop on a train, it turned out to be 3 trains and a bus from Swindon, and twice the time it would be by car.

I guess it must be cheap, but even somewhere in the East Midlands, like the RYA conferences (equally difficult for everyone) might have been better. No idea if there are big spaces out there, but can't believe there aren't.

There is a large Arena venue in Peterborough at the East of England Showground. About a mile from the A1. I don't doubt there are many other venues like it if the NEC was beyond financial reach.
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Straight away that turns into a 2night stay if we want to be there and get home at a reasonable time rather than one.
We couldn't go this year - first we've missed in 10yrs - but I can't see the attraction of this new location to be honest.

So, more car journeys? Less to do in the area? 🤔
Seems a bit of an odd choice if a change was needed.



It could still be a 1 night stay. Leave home say 8am. Arrive 1pm. 3 hrs at show Sat Pm. Stay over. Show Sun Morning. leave say 2pm. Home for tea?

I've never planned my visit to co-incide with specific speakers etc. Yet for a work conference etc I would...



Yeah, I get that and it's already something I've thought about.
Thing is, we always see the show as a great reason for a weekend away. So, Saturday at the show (Usually on a stand at some point) before heading for a night in the city and some 'tourist' stuff y'know? Almost marks the start of not only the season but of our own calendar.

Not sure Mrs Fleaberto will be so enamoured to go ....mind you, it might mean that there's no-one to imprison the credit card so perhaps a positive after all  Wink
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Obviously there will be some losers in terms of travel time but Farnborough IEC is an excellent venue, easier to get to for anyone south of the M4 (probably most sailors?) and not more than 30 mins extra for most others. Overall if it encourages more classes, more sailmakers and more trade to attend then visitor numbers should also grow.
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Great for me! 
I was considering going to AP this weekend. I have worked quite a few, but not been as a punter since I was about 15 (17 years ago), but from me it would have been a 2hr trip each way - Based South Coast central. I decided 4 hours of driving wasn't worth it. 
I can get to Milton Keynes in 2 hours, which would have been a better area to go to in my mind than AP.

The logistics of the show as an exhibitor is a nightmare, with so few entry points. Pack up was always terrible with poor access in and out and had to be done Sunday night, accommodation was expensive and so was food and beer. 

Will almost certainly go to Farnborough next year, as it is only an hour away. It will suit anyone driving from the West or down the A34 route as well as south central. Any route avoiding the M25 and London Circular can only be a good thing!! 
Obviously those from the East will loose out, but I guess someone has to...
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Certainly looking at the location of existing Rya members and sailors , Farnborough makes sense. As long as winter continues to disappear as travel by train is not required.

If this was part of a plan with a midland and then northern event following to reach out to new people, I would say well done.

Let's hope we get chance to say well done when this is publicised
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Just makes me think that the RYA don't give a monkeys about anyone north of Watford.

If you were going to the trouble of moving it then if it moved anywhere nearer the south coast it was obvious to anyone that the RYA would come under fire for such a move and to plough onwards regardless shows a complete arrogance if you ask me ... which of course no-one did ... 
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Whilst very much a Southerner and now a South Westerner, whilst an amble up the A303 is quite appealing; I have always considered the South Coast to be home to the "Yachties" and the Midlands and the North to be the hotbed of grassroots dinghy sailing.

Obviously the RYA have access to some demographics that prove otherwise.

My guess is that the powers that be are between a rock and a hard place in a shrinking market, but this decision is one that I suspect will be regretted further down the line. 
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