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patj 
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 Topic: Defibs at clubs.Posted: 01 Mar 20 at 8:56am |
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Our puddle club has one of the two village defibrilators within 200 yards but the only time we've had someone with an issue we were lucky to have a member who is a vet and lead the help and shipped the (still walking) patient off in an ambulance. There's no substitute for professional training!
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423zero
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Posted: 26 Feb 20 at 10:03am |
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Seems unlikely that local clubs will attain level of a RNLI station, RYA guidelines probably most realistic level.
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Sussex Lad
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Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 8:17pm |
That's the way it is for a lot of clubs, diminishing experience. Glad I don't have to the duty roster. |
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polc1410
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Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 7:36pm |
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423 - completely agree.
Inland pond. Likely on 37a/M1 so stay there. If you have something else happening and REALLY need to do Comms about it, they can do so on another channel Sea club - you may want to do major emergency stuff on 16, but you'd need a plan for how you handle that. (At least you have a button programmed to do it) |
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423zero
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Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 7:11pm |
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Simple thing with radio, stick to one channel, will always be members who can't do technical stuff, find them something they can do.
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polc1410
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Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 2:45pm |
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No I'm not lifeboat. Interested ex first aid instructor who has considered many of the issues over the years. Have discussed with lifeboat teams on occasions.
I would fully expect there are a number of clubs with people who have never done any first aid training Manning RIBs. And others who did first aid for a different role who have never had to spend any time considering how to do CPR or recovery position in a RIB. I'd go so far as to say - RYA inspections that ask to see first aid kits on RIBs are useless... Be far better to see a casualty care exercise tested on a RIB including the learning and action plan. There will ALWAYS be learning and action plans! Likewise - don't show me the action card which someone kindly laminated last night before the inspection. Show me it working. I.e. find a phone, a phone signal, 'place a call', post someone to the gate/barrier etc to let ambulance in and direct them. If you are expecting ambulance to go to a casualty have you got bouyancy aids ready for them to put on. What is the plan for the other sailors - keep out or bring ashore? Where? What is the plan for non-emergency radio traffic - is it moving channel? Inland clubs seem to have decided to move the emergency to another channel. Show me that working? Half the members can't even unlock the radio! |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 2:22pm |
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Thanks polc1410 for the accurate update/corrections. Are you a Lifeboat crewman by any chance?
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Sussex Lad
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Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 1:13pm |
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Any clubs sending out inexperienced/new to sailing/no first aid cert volunteers as safety boat crews?
I suspect there are some. Getting a casualty into a rib and knowing how to perform cardiac massage might be a challenge to some crews.
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fleaberto
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Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 12:52pm |
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Some really useful input. Cheers everyone.
One of my clubs is very small in terms of water size, so we could have casualties ashore pretty quickly. I'm minded to recommend at least one device ashore. The scenario that has been painted regarding the whole resus process on a moving rib (assuming the craft is big enough in the first place) paints a very good picture and all that I'd been considering whilst discussing this issue with our committee. Thanks everyone, some good points raised, thankyou
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NicolaJayne
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Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 10:37am |
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I agree with Polc1410 - they obviously have some level of involvement in this professionally ( the use of DCA to refer to a double crewed ambulance) suggests involvement A+E / ambulance service/ VAS )
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