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tink 
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 Topic: Is sailing too complexPosted: 24 Jan 20 at 7:36pm |
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In a FB group a respected Australian designer reported the following: ‘The sheer compactness and ease of transport has meant that a classic dinghy regatta can attract 17 sailfish all over 40 years old. Maybe 5 moths turn up despite moths outnumbering sailfish over 25 to one’ I appreciate that this is a bit too wet for us in the UK but I had the thought, has sailing become too complex? Is that why our sport is in decline? |
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Rupert
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Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 7:55pm |
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Too expensive, maybe, with the expectation that you need the "right" class and all the gear. But forgetting cost, the Aero is pretty simple for the end user - maybe why it is a success?
The Minisail filled this niche in the UK for quite some time, and still does in my garage, and sometimes on the water. The Open Goose seems to do well in trade wind areas, too. |
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RS400atC
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Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 8:57pm |
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That blunt scow has about twice as many varaibles as a Laser. Rake, rig tension, lowers, battens, then all the variation in wood-built hulls etc Probably a more complex style of sailing too, as it may work well sailed on its ear at times?
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Rupert
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Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 9:07pm |
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The mast is held up with string, the boat will sail well heeled, so no stupid Laser style hiking. And the variation in the hulls means you can nail one together in the garage.
And you don't have to lift the whole damn rig into the boat all at once. |
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zeon
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Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 10:12pm |
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The fact is a dinghy can be simple or complex. But the fact is, the simple act of racing a boat around a race course is always complex
Edited by zeon - 24 Jan 20 at 10:15pm |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 10:53pm |
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^ This ^
It's as simple or as complex as you want to make it. Even racing, if you re happy to potter around at the back with getting round the corners upright the nadir of your expectations. Whatever, literally, floats your boat.
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Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 11:09pm |
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There is nothing more simple than a sailboard and it's rig, but there is nothing more complex than getting it around a given course in less time than others.
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tink
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Posted: 25 Jan 20 at 7:16am |
Yes but also no, quiver of boards, multiple rigs and the obligatory V-dub
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Posted: 25 Jan 20 at 7:36am |
Wasn’t necessarily thinking about the Australian scow Sailfish, it was just the catalyst for the question. The simple Laser, all the XD stuff, probably necessary but carbon top section of the mast, carbon tillers don’t to, my mind, add anything. The Aero, D-zero etc; choice of rigs, so do you buy both? do you take both with you on Sunday? Carbon mast and UV, do you take it down or buy the sock thing. Completely at a loss to why they can’t make with a UV protection pigment in it. Any these are boats at the simplest end of the whole array, foiling moths, Merlins and 505 are very complex but there are many other classes than over time have allowed adjustable on the water forestays, lowers, etc. Sorry about font size, frequently when I post it looses the post so I write in notes and copy and paste and it comes in big. It won’t then let me adjust. |
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Posted: 25 Jan 20 at 8:42am |
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It doesn't have to be complex, there is a huge range of classes available. If you want to sail something straightforward buy an unstayed single hander. Laser, Topper, Lightning, Comet etc. |
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a picture of the very simple Australian Sailfish (scow rather than pointy American one) |
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