Laser Club Edition.

Originally posted by JimC Originally posted by Sam.Spoons it just isn't an ILCA dinghy. Correction: It isn't an International Laser Class dinghy.

Originally posted by tink Originally posted by Sam.Spoons Originally posted by jeffers Originally posted by Sam.Spoons Seriously though, if you only sail at club and regional level then it's a great deal and nothing illegal or immoral about buying and racing one (unlike buying a replica sail for example). I think UKLA would disagree with you. Turn up at a CA sanctioned event, tell them you have a club Laser and I am pretty sure you would be invited to leave. Yes they would but their event, their rules. There's still nothing to suggest that a 'Club Laser' is anything other than legit, it just isn't an ILCA dinghy. I'd be interested to see what the Great Lakes organisers take is. If you’re building a non Laser Laser you don’t need to comply to the Laser building book. It would be interesting to if the club to the exact specifications or deviating, cheaper resin etc

Edited by jeffers - 07 Nov 19 at 4:51pm

Originally posted by jeffers Originally posted by tink Originally posted by Sam.Spoons Originally posted by jeffers Originally posted by Sam.Spoons Seriously though, if you only sail at club and regional level then it's a great deal and nothing illegal or immoral about buying and racing one (unlike buying a replica sail for example). I think UKLA would disagree with you. Turn up at a CA sanctioned event, tell them you have a club Laser and I am pretty sure you would be invited to leave. Yes they would but their event, their rules. There's still nothing to suggest that a 'Club Laser' is anything other than legit, it just isn't an ILCA dinghy. I'd be interested to see what the Great Lakes organisers take is. I would imagine that the  If you’re building a non Laser Laser you don’t need to comply to the Laser building book. It would be interesting to if the club to the exact specifications or deviating, cheaper resin etc To be fair Tink I don't think is likely to be a cheaper resin, the Laser/ILCA dinghy uses Polyester resin and CSM, probably about the cheapest fibreglass arrangement there is! There are some foam stringers and areas where the hull get extra material though (which was the crux of the most recent fallout between ILCA/LP/GSA).

Both button and none button sails will be cut from templates, and sew together. The non button sail may get a couple of measurements taken and then shipped. The bottom sail will require multiple measurements  and they will be logged so a certificate can be drawn up. Any out of tolerance will be reworked or scraped the cost spread over all the button sails. It simply cost more to prove it is in specification and certificate it. But some will got to ILCA 

The volume of sails gave them access to lower labour cost suppliers to make a basic low cost sail.

Surely anyone with average business skills could have made money, continued to give the class their nominal cut and kept the " replica " market out?

But crazy prices and too many layers in the distribution chain has been an important part of this mess.