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    Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 5:45pm
And would anyone bet against these boats being granted retrospective class status at the point when differences are reconciled?
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

An interesting though, like any 'Kirby Sailboat' carrying a sail without the official button, the Rooster 8.1 is not a Laser, even though it may have a plaque on the hull saying it is. But it does have a PN, and has had a National Championship or two. So if a number of 'Kirby Sailboat' enthusiasts decided to form a UKKSCA they could offer racing for any or all 'Kirby Sailboats' up to Nationals level.


I fancy many Club Laser sailor are not even aware of what is going on and if they did find out, would be fairly unconcerned and might be tempted by a cheap new boat.
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Until somebody starts making a 'training' sail that is demonstrably faster I doubt clubs will be bothered about replicas being raced at club level.

TBH I think it would be good for the sport and the Laser if somebody did form a UKKSCA (or even a UK Laser Sailors Assn.). I suspect though that, unless it was formed and supported by LPE the first solicitors letter from ILCA would see it rapidly wound up.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

TBH I think it would be good for the sport and the Laser if somebody did form a UKKSCA (or even a UK Laser Sailors Assn.). I suspect though that, unless it was formed and supported by LPE the first solicitors letter from ILCA would see it rapidly wound up.

What grounds would ILCA have?
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What is RYA stance ? 
When clubs enquire if they can allow 'Lasers' to sail, what will be reply ?
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Originally posted by Peaky

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

TBH I think it would be good for the sport and the Laser if somebody did form a UKKSCA (or even a UK Laser Sailors Assn.). I suspect though that, unless it was formed and supported by LPE the first solicitors letter from ILCA would see it rapidly wound up.

What grounds would ILCA have?

Sheer bloody mindedness  Ouch

The RYA gave the Rooster a PN so I'd look on that as tacit approval. It appears that LPE are legally entitled to build the boats and call them Lasers so why should the RYA attempt to prohibit them from racing in the UK?




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I can’t see the RYA touching this with a barge pole. It’ll be below providing PY adjustment advice to coastal clubs on the list of priorities!
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Just been reading the Laser Forum and ILCA intend to charge new Laser builders an up front royalty payment of $100,000 annually to new builders! Can't see that having legs........
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Until somebody starts making a 'training' sail that is demonstrably faster ]


What do you mean 'until' it's already a fact, oversize, under regulated, it's part of my grief about the Laser Yardstick, get a well built 'Training sail' and you'll be all over the standard rig like a cheap suit.
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It says everything about this forum . Big problems in the world largest class which have been going on for about nine month and we start talking about in now. 

We even missed their vote to change their class rules, never mind the their possible name change in territory’s controlled by LPE . Or even the effect of WS Frand policy on the class and its builders.

No we were all happy in our own little world , talking tosh about yardsticks and the lee bow effect. Unhappy 


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