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Sam.Spoons 
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 Topic: Laser Club Edition.Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 2:05pm |
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Because it isn't a replica boat it's a Laser built by the owner of the Laser name and brand, surely the replica is the ICLA dinghy
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davidyacht
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Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 3:26pm |
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There is something fundamentally wrong with all of this ... if Laser Performance can make a profit at the £ 4K price point, I wonder how much the sport could be grown by making these boats “legal”?
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423zero
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Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 3:32pm |
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The class association needs to provide leadership on this issue, are they categorically stating they will not allow Lasers built by Laser, and they are not class compliant?
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Sam.Spoons
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It is a complete mess and all the parties involved seem to be doing their damnedest to kill the golden goose.
Yes they are. They have said only boats with an ILCA plaque (i.e., as of the dispute with LPE, the ILCA 'replica' of a Laser) will be class legal at ILCA run events. You couldn't make it up..............
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Rupert
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Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 3:51pm |
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Neither is a replica. But one of them is deemed to not be built correctly, or at least hasn't been proven to be produced properly by refusing inspection by the CA on behalf of world sailing.
Or so one of the many stories goes. Our parliament has based their behaviour on that of the parties involved with the Laser. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 4:08pm |
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Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 4:15pm |
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It’s simple . If it got a plaque it’s a class legal boat , if it hasn’t it’s not.
If you want to know how we got to this position go to SA , click on dinghy anarchy, then LPE given the boot. Then wade thought 70 odd pages of pages of posts. Fill your boots guys
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 4:17pm |
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And if it's new, with a plaque, and built/sold in Europe it ain't a Laser.......
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That depends on the class in question. Boats under the control of the International Laser Class Association need a plaque, “club Lasers” need whatever a newly formed “club Laser Association” requires. How many of the Laser fleet at your cub belong to a class association? Not many would be my guess. |
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Posted: 06 Nov 19 at 4:52pm |
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An interesting though, like any 'Kirby Sailboat' carrying a sail without the official button, the Rooster 8.1 is not a Laser, even though it may have a plaque on the hull saying it is. But it does have a PN, and has had a National Championship or two. So if a number of 'Kirby Sailboat' enthusiasts decided to form a UKKSCA they could offer racing for any or all 'Kirby Sailboats' up to Nationals level.
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