Running by the lee

   Is there an official definition, or more specifically, an official limitation on running by the lee.

Last weekend while getting across into a wind streak I was well up into broad reach territory.

It reminded me of messing around in lasers as a youth. By converting the mainsheet to a single purchase there was enough scope to bring the boom well forwards and sail to windward "by the lee"

Not the quickest, but being on starboard while on a port close hauled course could be useful.

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Old bloke Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 03 Nov 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 121	Post Options Post Reply Quote Old bloke Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Running by the lee Posted: 01 Nov 18 at 9:41am
	Is there an official definition, or more specifically, an official limitation on running by the lee. Last weekend while getting across into a wind streak I was well up into broad reach territory. It reminded me of messing around in lasers as a youth. By converting the mainsheet to a single purchase there was enough scope to bring the boom well forwards and sail to windward "by the lee" Not the quickest, but being on starboard while on a port close hauled course could be useful.

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 18 at 11:39am
	No definition AFIK and no specific limitations. Proper course stuff will presumably apply as will room to keep clear where relevant. Edited by Sam.Spoons - 01 Nov 18 at 11:40am
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Brass Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 Mar 08 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brass Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 18 at 11:53am
	Take a look at this discussion https://www.racingrulesofsailing.org/posts/220-sailing-by-the-lee-definition Edited by Brass - 01 Nov 18 at 12:46pm

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	So, in practice, if the sail is filling from behind (i.e. not backwinded) the leeward side is the side the boom is on. If the sail fills from the 'wrong' side the boat is no longer sailing by the lee and her windward side is that over witch the wind is blowing.
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Old bloke Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 03 Nov 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 121	Post Options Post Reply Quote Old bloke Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 18 at 3:04pm
	Thank you Brass. I am surprised that there has not been more deliberation. Those judges were more concerned with deliberatly pulling the boom to windward to claim starboard. Maybe if there was serious laser team racing it would have been explored more. I didnt see anything in their discussion to stop me continuing to ?bear away ?luff up from my running by the lee to go as near to the wind as I can go

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 18 at 8:29pm
	You can certainly get a Lightning on a reach with the sail out over the bow. It's good fun. But there is a tendency for the boat to spin out with no notice. Think this would get you into trouble in a race!
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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 18 at 9:33pm
	The rule is pretty sensible. It would be ridiculous if the ROW changed second by second in a shifty breeze. It's always possible to think up highly unlikely hypothetical situations that make the rule look odd, but they are usually very unlikely in practice. The rules would be impossible if they tried to allow for every conceivable possibility.