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    Posted: 12 Jan 08 at 8:13pm

it should not happen, its the water turbulating off the back of your foils. You need to sand one side of the back edge to make the back edges asymmetrical.

49ers do 11 to 13.5/14 (14 on flat water) in 15knots plus and we smoke 14's when we start easing main just look at the ovi inlands. The one race we could twin trapeze up the whole first beat we were miles ahead.

thats an impressive average, we have managed 18.5knots over a mile in the 49er and 19 over a km, but we can not get it to peak at over 23.1 at the moment. I wonder if the new rigs are faster
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Ummm i'm sorry but i was at the ovi inlands and we would beat most of the 9er fleet round the winward mark (apart from the top boys) and downhill Bye bye!  and in 15 knots 9ers dont smoke a 14 down wind mate i'm sorry your just wrong or very very very good!

 

Anyway you should smoke us! Look at the PY difference 9ers wont beat many current rule 14's on handicap!

Ps i know why the foils hum but i can live with it! you know your flat and plaining when it does!



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The Cherubs did pretty well! Beat quite a few 14's.......
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Originally posted by Skiffman

it should not happen, its the water turbulating off the back of your foils. You need to sand one side of the back edge to make the back edges asymmetrical.

49ers do 11 to 13.5/14 (14 on flat water) in 15knots plus and we smoke 14's when we start easing main just look at the ovi inlands. The one race we could twin trapeze up the whole first beat we were miles ahead.

thats an impressive average, we have managed 18.5knots over a mile in the 49er and 19 over a km, but we can not get it to peak at over 23.1 at the moment. I wonder if the new rigs are faster

Think they will be as there is something like an extra 0.7m squared of sail and it will be a lot lighter. Just depends on if its a quick design I guess! I think they are phasing it in, with weight in the boats with the new rig.
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I heard a rumour that the non CNC made boats wont be allowed to race with the new ones on the circuit in the future - I really hope this isnt true!

But Im all for the new 49er rig, think its a good thing - as long as its done properly and by what ive heard, over 4yrs and lead thats a good plan. Ultimatley the bigger rig and carbon mast will make it faster and more responsive - all of which is a big bonus!
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Originally posted by andy_cherub

I heard a rumour that the non CNC made boats wont be allowed to race with the new ones on the circuit in the future - I really hope this isnt true!

But Im all for the new 49er rig, think its a good thing - as long as its done properly and by what ive heard, over 4yrs and lead thats a good plan. Ultimatley the bigger rig and carbon mast will make it faster and more responsive - all of which is a big bonus!

 I hope not.. I thought it was just foils, to sail in Gold Class events you have to have the new CNC foils with the 49er ensignia on. I guess shouldn't matter too much because the people who campaign normally have new boats from their sponsor's anyway, just got to get the sponsors first!

I think its a great idea, as logn as they don't go on a psree and go for new carbon wings and everything they possibly can to make it more expensive for the little guys .

Not sure if it is 4 years, but its some time which i remember thinking yea some new rigs will tirckle down in that time.. 

Do you sail 49ers aswell?
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I have to agree with you andy, i think it will be a different beast!  and not stuck in the misd 90's! 
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I used to sail 49ers, then droped the campain for the 12. Still keep an eye on developments tho.

I hope the 49er doesnt go down the road some of the previous olympic boats went down, ie become just a sole olympic class as I think its a great boat for the "average joe" as its easy to go fast!

Oh well, time will tell!
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I think it might be which is a shame
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Originally posted by Skiffman

it should not happen, its the water turbulating off the back of your foils. You need to sand one side of the back edge to make the back edges asymmetrical.

I recently saw some research that suggested that will give you a bigger drag increase then the humming...
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