Enterprise age?

   Hi everyone, i have just bought a Enterprise dinghy made of GRP, can i find out its sge from the numbets on the sail or is there a another way? The only numbers on the sail are E4 in large black print but also im a lower corner is C18105 written in permanant marker, any ideas anybody?

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Keifer1972 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 02 Feb 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote Keifer1972 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Enterprise age? Posted: 02 Feb 18 at 4:12pm
	Hi everyone, i have just bought a Enterprise dinghy made of GRP, can i find out its sge from the numbets on the sail or is there a another way? The only numbers on the sail are E4 in large black print but also im a lower corner is C18105 written in permanant marker, any ideas anybody?

Eisvogel Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 09 Dec 16 Location: Birmingham Online Status: Offline Posts: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eisvogel Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 18 at 4:14pm
	It should also be carved on the transom, I think. The sails might not originally belong to the boat.
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Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 18 at 4:48pm
	The current rules have this to say :- "The sail number shall be carved in figures not less than 19 mm high in the transom or may be in the upper face of the aft thwart on moulded and composite boats. A production serial number shall be engraved on a plate permanently fastened to the inner face of the transom of all boats with moulded hulls." Not sure how much of that applies to older GRP boats, the number on the makers plate may or may not correspond to the sail number (most likely does on older boats though) but the sail number, if the boat was registered, should be on the hull somewhere. HTH
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423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 18 at 5:23pm
	The "C" number is the measurement certificate number, boat can't be E4, all early boats were wood, Hull number is burnt into thwart.

jaydub Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 06 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 267	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaydub Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Feb 18 at 5:27pm
	The Mk2 plastic boats, which had wooden thwarts and wooden deck knees, had the sail number carved in the rear thwart. I'm pretty certain the Holt / Speed FRP boats were the same. Can't recall where they were in the Mk1 plastic boats and left the class before the new fangled Rondar Mk 3s (and dangly poles for that matter) came into existence.

Eisvogel Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 09 Dec 16 Location: Birmingham Online Status: Offline Posts: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eisvogel Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 18 at 8:15pm
	If you contact the Enterprise Association, they might be able to tell from the certificate number.
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Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Feb 18 at 9:05pm
	If that certificate belongs to the boat....... But it's definitely worth contacting them, when I had an Ent they were extremely helpful. Edited by Sam.Spoons - 03 Feb 18 at 9:06pm
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transient Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715	Post Options Post Reply Quote transient Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 18 at 5:41pm
	Reasonably sure that number is 1975. Worth checking at the class assoc though. Of course if that number is on the sail it probably does not relate to the hull.

423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 18 at 6:18pm
	What year was first plastic boat made, can't be earlier. E1 and E2, were the first and second Enterprises built and were the two boats that sailed across the channel in the dead of night.

423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Feb 18 at 6:24pm
	http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/187239/Brief-history-of-the-Enterprise-Class