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    Posted: 30 Jan 18 at 10:55pm
Originally posted by 423zero

Perhaps a part time job for a student ? Most Cities and Large towns have a University of some description, what is minimum wage ?

part time job doing what ? 

whole set of issues once you start paying people  to do  the duties 
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

I'd be happy to cox the safety boat, I have the experience, the skill, and the knowledge but can't because my safety boat certificate is out of date. TBH I'm fine not having the responsibility these days..........


hence my reference to the 'equivalent experience' that our club states... come join us and you can do all the rib driving you want sam  Big smile

its all a bit smoke and mirrors really because i struggle to see duties being much part of any perceived (or otherwise) decline 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 18 at 11:01pm
Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

So... 15 mornings and 24 Sundays a year..... Dead
the 15 mornings are on Sundays you chump! LOL
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Posts: 3420 		Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 18 at 7:28am
We have a lot of Cyclists and Joggers round our lake, I have asked committee to print flyers to hand out, but no interest, suggested ad in local free paper for people to come and try messing about in boats, have a go at crewing, again no interest, they are of The build it they will come.

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This all seems to suggest that driving the powerboat, or watching boats sailing around, whilst helping out other club members, who in turn will help you to get enjoyable, safe sailing/racing, is somehow an onerous task. I find it to be one of the most sociable things to do, and certainly end up getting to know my fellow duty dogs much better.

For some who rarely set foot on club soil, let alone get on the water, it can be a reminder that they joined for a reason. For others, it will be a terrible imposition. I'd suggest to them that maybe, just maybe, they should try using the local pay and play lake twice a year, rather than joining something called a club, with all that implies.

As for regulars who whinge about doing duties, but are happy to turn up every week and make use of other people's time, there are no words.
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Posts: 3401 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 18 at 9:15am
Originally posted by A2Z

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

So... 15 mornings and 24 Sundays a year..... Dead
the 15 mornings are on Sundays you chump! LOL

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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"Chump" is such a lovely, friendly word.......
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Posts: 1312 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 18 at 9:27am
While some may mock Rupert's opinion for being out of touch with modern lifestyles, I feel he makes valid points.

There is I feel a risk of creating a loss of depth in knowledge and experience with a full pay and play model. Yes if you sail every week unimpeded my management or duty responsibilities you may sail and race to a higher level but will you be a better sailor? This is more to our game than being first to the windward mark. Some first principles can get lost, such as, the first rule of racing rules is to avoid contact, seamanship to look out for beginners or those in trouble. There is much to be learned from watching your fellow members when doing a duty of Committee boat or Safety. I would also suggest that the best safety boat crews and ROs come from current sailors.
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Originally posted by Do Different

I would also suggest that the best safety boat crews and ROs come from current sailors.

But not *all* the current sailors. Its my observation that if there's a really king size stuff up on the committee boat it will probably be perpetrated by one of the club's best sailors.
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LOL LOL LOL LOL
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