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Do Different 
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 Topic: carbon fibre from plants?Posted: 16 Jan 18 at 6:44pm |
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These boys don't appear to be throwing a lot away.
https://www.britishpathe.com/video/firefly-racing-dinghy |
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Posted: 16 Jan 18 at 6:11pm |
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Anyone who has worked in the composites industry will know that the amount of consumables used is huge: peel ply, gloves, vaccum bag, breather, infusion mesh the list goes on and on
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Jack Sparrow
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Ooo... that's interesting. Thanks for sharing. I think anything that can be done to reduce impact is a good idea. And I'm totally with Jim on the waste involved in boat production. I have a massive crisis when I'm chucking away a tone of Peel Ply or Breather Bag or whatever. One more argument for lightweight dinghies made from wood! ( couldn't help but bring it back the 3.7! ;-) ) But then the wood needs to be responsibly sourced! In my view there's defiantly a market for someone to provide a single point of purchase for responsibly sourced timber and eco boat building materials.
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There are a few bio resins, I am not quite how much of the formulation is plant based, and what other chemicals and energy input is required in the manufacturing. I have used an infusion resin from https://entropyresins.com/ and it seemed OK, possibly more sensitive to temperature than some other resins but it was useable in a garage. |
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 16 Jan 18 at 11:53am |
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All true but I suspect if we all recycled a single extra drink bottle or carrier bag every week we'd make a much bigger impact?
Not saying it's not still a good idea to reduce our impact but at least we don't go and burn 100-200kg of refined petroleum fuel every other weekend on top of all that carbon fibre stuff........
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JimC
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Posted: 16 Jan 18 at 11:11am |
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The thing that disturbs me most about hi tech boat building is not the product but the waste. Reusable peel ply would be great (no I haven't the slightest clue how that might possibly be managed, I expect its impossible, not to mention film, bleeder cloth, even disposable gloves).
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 16 Jan 18 at 10:09am |
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Not that I'm not environmentally conscious (I think it comes with the territory as a sailor) but, TBH, compared to the amount of PET bottles discarded a few carbon fibre skiffs cluttering up landfill is pretty small spuds........
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 16 Jan 18 at 9:20am |
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Next step would be the resin. Anybody know of an eco epoxy? I know Sicomin resin is meant to be low toxicity, but what about it's petroleum content? I've also seen Bamboo Fibreglass, but still what about the resin?
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 15 Jan 18 at 5:22pm |
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https://www.ecowatch.com/carbon-fiber-plants-2524612227.html?utm_campaign=RebelMouse&socialux=facebook&share_id=3173573&utm_medium=social&utm_content=EcoWatch&utm_source=facebook
Looks like the environmentally conscious among us can breath a little more happily while sailing our exotic craft,... soon?
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