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    Posted: 28 Dec 17 at 9:55am
Originally posted by ian.r.mcdonald

The Laser model seems similar!

I think you'll struggle to find many things that have a regular diet of consumables and aren't sold on the "cheap initial purchase - expensive consumables" model.
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All sounds daft to me....sails on "The class whose name I dare not mention" last for ages.
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Posts: 20 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Emilio Castelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Dec 17 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by piglet

Is it true the composite top section is 600g lighter than the ally?
If so, how is that fair competition.

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Originally posted by blueboy

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

The problem with SMODs (of which the L@ser is the ultimate) is that it's the manufacturer who decides what is class legal or not, not the sailors (or their representatives running the CA).


Not actually true. I spent some years helping fine-tune class rules for a SMOD and changes needed 3-way agreement, manufacture, class-association and the copyright holder of the class rules (which was neither of the first two). Though I am pleased to say the manufacturer was not Laser.


 that depends on the structure

newer classes builders  who want to 'take ocntrol' are  more IP  law savvy than the  numerous laser companies have been  over the years 

CA  - depends on whether it actually  exists  or  is  part of the Builder's  PR+ marketing  team ... 
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Posts: 437 		Post Options Post Options   Quote zippyRN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Dec 17 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by Paramedic

^^What he said^^ 

 but how many are using genuine sails?

(I must add I don't actually have a massive problem with people using non-class sails in club racing provided the club authorise it and its handicap racing)


quite a few as their 'cost to change' is  rather less than the cost of a new sail  as club racers will buy   'nearly new ' sails  and any that get torn are often  just written off by  insurers even though repairs  are legit and legal in the class rules 
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Booooring..what did you get for Christmas?...see other thread...  
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