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Poll Question: Who will win the 2017 endeavour
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    Posted: 14 Oct 17 at 12:04am
The back to back races arent an issue. They're not long races and have a quick turnaround. Plus, it's not an event for the average Joe trying to encourage high entries; it's an event for champions to find the best of the best.

I take the point about single handers. But in my opinion it's not so much that it's hard for someone who sails a single hander to win, but just that you need experience in many classes to do well. After all, those sailors you list managed to win single handed championships.

The jump from skiffs to conventional dinghies is a larger barrier.

Tune up day was today, quite breezy by the sounds of it!
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Edited by mozzy - 14 Oct 17 at 10:47am
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One day in and the predictions look pretty accurate. Saxton 1st 1,1,1,4,2; Craig 2nd 2,2,6,1,1. Nobody else close at the mo.
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The gulf between the full time Olympic sailor and the rest painfully obvious...
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1st Saxton and Lewis; defending champions. This makes Toby Lewis the most successful sailor in the history of the event, winning 7 out of the last 11 Endeavours. 

2nd Craig - Scott (D-One)
3rd Gilberts (I14)
4th Goringe - Clarke (400)
5th Birrell - Henderson (470)
6th Palmer - Seabright (200)
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Originally posted by JimC

The gulf between the full time Olympic sailor and the rest painfully obvious...
Probably a little unfair to ignore his crew; Toby Lewis, the most successful sailor in the history of the event.
Ben is an outstanding helm, but the gulf between him and rest of the fleet is just as much Toby's making as it is Ben's.


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He did count a 4th and a second. Olympian or not, he is fallible! Probably needed a better crew  Ouch
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Allowing truly professional sailors (as opposed to people who try to make a living in the industry) into the event does seem a little against the spirit of things. I can't now remember what dinghy Nationals he won last year to be defending this?
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Oh come on Rupert, it would be extremely harsh not to give the holder a place.   

And it is supposed to be champion of champions, not best amateur or something. If you exclude the full on Olympic pros, do you exclude the 'Sailmakers' who do multiple championships for their employers? Or even the likes of Mr Rooster?

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