Sailing and Large sailors.

What if anything has your club done regarding the problem of obese members, talking rescue etc ?Not talking diet, this isn't our business.

Edited by 423zero - 15 Oct 17 at 5:44pm

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423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Sailing and Large sailors. Posted: 14 Oct 17 at 10:08am
	What if anything has your club done regarding the problem of obese members, talking rescue etc ? Not talking diet, this isn't our business. Edited by 423zero - 15 Oct 17 at 5:44pm

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Oct 17 at 6:50pm
	Nothing, beyond what comes in Safetyboat courses.
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	Thought this was another Phantom thread. One thing we don't have any issues with, if they are that big, it's unlikely they'll get out in conditions likely to have them need a rescue boat.
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2547 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151	Post Options Post Reply Quote 2547 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 17 at 2:22pm
	Too fat to pull into the rescue boat? ...then just tow them into shallow water. At 20 knots.

423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 17 at 3:12pm
	We tow larger members to shallow water on our pool, I should think it will be a problem at sea ? Dropping them into surf ?

transient Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715	Post Options Post Reply Quote transient Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 17 at 4:46pm
	Too be fair it's not just about obesity, some folk are just big. We're all getting older with dodgy knees, backs, shoulders, less than perfect mobility. Perhaps you should rename the thread "sailing and big folk". It might be easier to discuss .....some might see "Obesity" as a pejorative I'm just shy of 6' and 12 stone. My wife and I work the safety boat together. She is small but perfectly formed. We are going to struggle to get anyone over 13-14 stone into the boat to be honest, particularly if they are injured. Edited by transient - 15 Oct 17 at 4:52pm

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	Here are a couple of patent parbuckling devices which may be helpful http://marine.the-justgroup.com/man-overboard-recovery-sea-scoopa/#more-223 http://marine.the-justgroup.com/shop/man-overboard/sos-recovery-ladder/ Bear in mind that for fatigued or unfit casualties, even when conscious, major problem can be lack of upper body strength to pull up the topsides of a rescue boat. This can be very greatly assisted by providing a foothold, either use of a fabric ladder as illustrated, or even putting a bowline or just a bight of rope over the side with the end(s) secured in the boat.

turnturtle Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538	Post Options Post Reply Quote turnturtle Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 17 at 8:37am
	On a serious question, if a crew are perpetually too unfit / too big to race their boat in compliance of class rules, are they really of sound physical capacity to comply with Rule 4? Could Rule 1.2 override class rules in this instance?

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	If you have electric/ hydraulic lift on the engine, that can be used to help them into the rib. Assuming you have turned the engine of first!
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	Most outboard engines have a horizontal fin, just above the propeller. With the engine off ( not idling!), It can be useful... The other technique I've used is to get the victim/rescuee to hold on to side of the rescue boat, float one foot up to the gunwhale and rest it on top. Then you can roll the victim into the boat. At all costs, avoid the direct lift approach for anyone over 12 years old. My club also has a couple of Pioneer boats which can be used for rescue - simply stop the boat, drop the bow ramp and the rescuee can crawl up with a hand if needed.