5o5 worlds - Gate starts

Originally posted by By The Lee To be fair everything iGRF said is true apart from the non sense apart pinching to get the tide on a favorable side of the bow...

OK, let's just requalify this, forget the boat, think about your foil, if you can get the flow from the windward side to even head on, then it's worth the effort, if you can get it from nose on, to the lee side then you will see benefits, providing... Your forward motion isn't seriously compromised or your main driving foils (the sail)end up too head to wind to be effective.

Now, some of these awful things you sail, have such sh*t foils of course it doesn't work, but just as gybing plates have an effect, so does skewing the tide off your weather side to head on, if it is at all possible, then you'll have an advantage over those that don't bother, the same as you will against those that don't 'hunt' lifts when they come along and just sail a bit faster.

I admit, all this is easier on a board than in a boat, but it can be done, I do it all the time, that girl Europe sailor showed me the skewing body technique we use on boards applied to a boat down the lake, and since I've dialled it I can get a similar stuffing the boat without stuffing the sail effect, I've seen lots of other good sailors doing it so it can't just be me.

Edited by iGRF - 01 Oct 17 at 8:49pm

You believe what you want to and I'll trust my experience. Dinghy sailors told me all the codswallop thirty five years ago, they are as wrong now as they were then. The tether you seek but fail to grasp is your rig. You are sailing between two fluids, suspended between them and the directions in which they are moving and the power you use to pursue your course over the ground is the sum of their efforts, you just need to dial into it and stop thinking two dimensionally.

Originally posted by JimC The back story behind this is that in the dim past there used to be a dumb theory about sailing in adverse tide called the lee bow effect, which still persists in some quarters, but GRF has never come across. It was nonsense, ....

Edited by Old Timer - 02 Oct 17 at 9:51am

Originally posted by JimC GRF is basically sound on sailing in tide, and what he calls lee bow effects are valid. They just aren't the dumb theory you'll find by that name in some old books and from some old sailors.

Edited by mozzy - 02 Oct 17 at 10:01am

Originally posted by mozzy ]Foils experience flow in the direction the boat is moving through the water, at the speed the boat is moving over the ground.

Try to think of it like that, tell your therapist you have advanced dinghy tidal retard syndrome..

Edited by iGRF - 02 Oct 17 at 10:47am