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    Posted: 22 Aug 17 at 11:57am
If your old enough you will remember the name of the original supplier.
I am going to Rooster this afternoon so will have a look, also the new Crewsaver might work.
I googled the Dakine and would want to see one in the flesh before spending that sort of money also would need to check if it complies for dinghy sailing.
Thanks for all the suggestions, like a few I would rather not where one but feel pressurised into it.
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When I were nobbut a lad, I had one of those Musto BA's made of lots of tiny air filled plastic compartments. It was much longer than is the norm today, but very comfortable and not bulky. Also had crotch straps to stop it riding up. I guess that standards today would preclude that sort of manufacture as when the bags burst, that's it....
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Hemel snow dome has just made it mandatory .... although I think this is more a case of insurance premiums coming in to play rather than some overt H&S fun police thing.  Economics and compensation culture have a lot to answer for.

I personally have always snowboarded in a helmet, and in fact had a crash last night at Tamworth where I was glad of my helmet and back protector, but it's interesting the signage up around some french resorts now.... I can see helmets being mandatory on piste within the next 5 years.  I think free choice is a good thing on this, but I'd bet a wedge that this is short lived in the Alps.

As for sailing - I bought a helmet for windsurfing and I honestly found it the most uncomfortable piece of sailing kit I've owned.  It completely ruined my wind awareness and I can hand on heart say that I really 'didn't get used to it' after a few sessions.   I certainly wouldn't want to wear one on a dinghy, ever.  
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Originally posted by turnturtle

I wonder if in say 10 years, there'll be online chat about mandatory helmets and different head shapes.... it surely can't be long before the H&S brigade force the issue on headwear too.

Read Snowheads on this topic!  Some would argue that you ski less carefully when wearing a helmet .. presumably you sail less carefully while wearing a bouyancy aid?

I am using the Zhik having worn out a Rooster, I must say the Rooster was more supple and a better fit, but the Zhik is wearing much better.

If I were designing a bouyancy aid, I would be thinking how to stop it riding up when you are in the water, if you can increase the support that a bouyancy aid provides, this should assist reaching the centreboard when in the water and climbing back in the boat.

I know of one person who attaches a crotch strap to his bouyancy aid when it is windy ... not a bad idea imo.
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I wonder if in say 10 years, there'll be online chat about mandatory helmets and different head shapes.... it surely can't be long before the H&S brigade force the issue on headwear too.
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I just wish they'd make gear for fatties and beer bellies.

Considering a large demographic of sailors are like that there ought to be a market for it. At the moment I know I could lose weight but I ain't, I enjoy beer too much however I am dependant on the stretchiness of neoprene. Which means that after a couple of years when the rubber starts to dry out and lose that stretchiness I guess I need to buy again....or breathe in for longer. Perhaps I've just answered my own statement and that's why they don't. Shame though.
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I find a tight 'impact vest' type buoyancy aid restricts my breathing far too much for energetic sailing (first tried one windsurfing). I have a Neil Pryde one like the Rooster up there and it's a reasonable compromise, not too bulky and impossible to stop it riding up but it's comfortable, well made and was reasonably priced.
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Originally posted by KazRob

... but as it says its for high agility sailors I think I'll give it a miss

Seems to me the less agile you are as a sailor the more you need a buoyancy aid that won't restrict you in any way. So some super agile young future Olympian could have a BA far more restrictive than that needed by those of us whose torso no longer moves or bends as well as it used to. Somehow I don't think that's what they mean though!
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That Spinlock Aero looks everything people say they want if you're talking a slim fitting non snag piece of gear. Yes it's expensive but you do effectively get a rash vest included. Mind you the Wing looks quite good as well.
I do like what appear to be pretty hefty straps on each side of both designs; I've binned a couple of PFDs because of ineffective or prematurely failed chest adjustment, trying to work in the water with a PFD floating under your chin is no fun. One reason I wear trapeze harness over PFD and I guess some use a rash vest over.
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Originally posted by MikeBz


Originally posted by Steve411

I was thinking of checking one of these out. Not tried it yet but looks pretty slimline to me.

Is it burgee-resistant?


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