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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Dougal, I accept that I may be harsh on Plas Heli based on my own experience, which may (hopefully) have been a one off, my experiences, of which I don't think I am alone, highlight that a bit of effort is required from the hosts if they want to grow as a venue, I was warned by the Opi parents before I went, and many Solo sailors gave feedback to the Merlins. The key point made elsewhere is that a venue needs to stack up both on and off the water, otherwise it simply is not a holiday, which is important for 80% of the fleet ... which is why I cannot understand why Abersoch has been usurped by Plas Heli by several classes. Continuity is another important aspect, so if you have good venues on a cycle then this also encourages better turnouts. I can see Plas Heli being a better Worlds venue than a Nationals venue, when that big circular shed could be great for bimbling with your IC in the rain, and when a good view from the bar is less important ... I just hope that they sweep the sand off the slipway ... they are heavy old boats (canoes).
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Single carriage roads most of the way don't help, get some knob driving at 40mph, like driving to St Ives before the A30.
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Drylander ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
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I'm confused by many of the comments made on this post, having sailed Pwllheli and Abersoch on many occasions I would choose Pwllheli every time as being friendly and always top class race management along with places to stay on site ( camping motorhome etc )
Abersoch, not the most friendly, no where to stop on site and the prices ! well proper get rich quick brigade, and we won't mention the race management. Now Salcombe, I love Salcombe but same again, no where to camp within walking distance and drive in parking is crazy and expensive as is the town generally, so I guess it's down to personal choice, and why anyone would want to go to Hayling Island I don't know that must be the most dismal place on the uk coast. |
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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.........and sandy too. I hate sand.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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laser193713 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889 |
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What's wrong with Hayling? I've always found the club very welcoming, the sailing area is great and I have no issue with sand! |
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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The sand inevitably ends up on the ropes and in your boat, prematurely knackering cleats and fittings. Grit everywhere yuck. For the purposes of this discussion I think the experience of visiting sailors can be divided into 2 catagories: The sailing and the ambience. I know that a lot of the hotshots don't give a toss about ambience but for those of us with more mainstream sensibilities it does matter. There's more to life than just functionality, particularly if you've taken a precious week off work to attend a nationals with your family.
The sailing at Hayling is undoubtedly excellent for a visitor. Ambience for a visitor? Nah. Not in my experience as a non racing visitor on many occasions....a lot better than Weymouth though. |
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Steve411 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: Cheddar, Somerset, England Online Status: Offline Posts: 705 |
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Pwwllheli, really? Totally uninspiring town (I'm being kind here) and hardly any B&Bs. Abersoch - lovely town with plenty of places to stay. I would seriously consider not doing a Nationals if it was at Pwllheli, and I never miss a Nationals.
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piglet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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+1 on Pwlhelli I'm afraid, served too much time there with Topper squads, only redeeming feature is the railway cafe. And it's sandy, though not that dreadful stuff that blows everywhere at Hayling. La Rochelle
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Steve411 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: Cheddar, Somerset, England Online Status: Offline Posts: 705 |
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The only redeeming feature is the road out!
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