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    Posted: 13 Jul 17 at 9:44pm
But is it comfortable ;) ?
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Old design too, burn it with all the others, only boats designed after 2000, please.
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na of course not, unless you have a thwart in it, or a deeper cockpit. Faster than a contender, fireball, RS800 or MPS in very light stuff. All you do is move forward and that posterior is out of the water and there is little drag.
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With some leeward heel (quite a lot..... FWIW (nowt TBH) I won a race in a drifter, singlehanding my Spice doing that).
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Comets at my club sail like that in a gale.
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Posts: 1760 		Post Options Post Options   Quote maxibuddah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 17 at 10:29pm
I've seen comets at our club drift past phantoms in a force 0-1 despite starting 5 minutes after them. Very embarrassing for those that were overtaken....I wasn't one of them thankfully 
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Bet you had the common sense to stay in the bar!
If you can count the cups going round on an anemometer going round its to light to sail.
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Although you can lift the bum of a Phantom out to a degree, I do agree with Jim's point that they aren't that slippery in the light stuff.

I used to regularly sail against an RS300, which is rated similarly. It was quicker in the really light stuff and then at about 5/6 knots the Phantom's powerful rig overcame the drag and I would be faster until the wind really strengthened when the ultimate speed of the RS300 won over.

Overall, I still think it is a pretty good design for a 70s design, with a much better blend of speed and ease of use compared to anything else I can think of. Main downside is the kneeling downwind, which the deep cockpit solves.
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Not that slippery true, but more slippery than most modern designs. And no Gordon I wasn't in the bar, we don't have one but I never let a comet near me
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It appears their are no dinghies after 2000 that are comfortable in a drifter ???

Keith Callaghans "Hadron" looks like it could be comfortable in a drifter and for older sailors.

I like the Enterprise sailing dinghy, light for it's size, easy to rig, easy to sail, even for a relative beginner, fast enough for competent sailors who want a seat, comfortable in a drifter, is their a modern dinghy to match ??
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