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boatshed 
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 Topic: fully battened sailsPosted: 11 May 17 at 6:07pm |
Or fit a dangly pole for the jib like the Nation 12 class uses. It's simple, very easy to use and pretty effective at keeping the leach and foot properly tensioned. A freed jib on a reach becomes a horrid shape and can hook causing back winding of the mainsail. By hooking, I mean the camber increases nearer the top. The camber should be the same or reduce from bottom to top. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 11 May 17 at 6:28pm |
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I'm only white sail reaching when it's my equivalent of survival conditions, no time for the niceties
 dangly pole not class legal anyway.......
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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Do Different
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Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Posted: 11 May 17 at 6:44pm |
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Reading your problem again. I'm now not so sure a soft sail will make that much difference. I thought you were talking general handling, not specifically two sail reaching.
Now, this is not meant to sound like big talk from a hardcore keyboard expert. However it could be that you're always going to have trouble in big wind with that weird reaching zone with two sails. I know I have kittens on the Contender and way back when I had a Buzz the balance was much easier to manage with the kite up and main sheeted in. I have friends with 49er and they reckon it's complete 'mare to reach two sail.
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Posted: 11 May 17 at 8:02pm |
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If you're sailing a Spoce singlehanded in 20kts, you will be massively over powered. It's no wonder the main is flogging!
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 11 May 17 at 8:05pm |
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You're probably right, I've sailed the Spice for a few years now but not done any proper racing and I don't have a regular crew so have never really set about learning to sail it properly. Now I have the Blaze I'm sailing much more often and hopefully will up my game. The Spice main is a pain in a blow upwind as well, it doesn't luff progressively like a soft sail but reaches a certain point and then inverts. I don't know is a soft sail would be more manageable, maybe not, hence my question here. But what prompted the original question was that I think I'll be buying a Supernova for sailing inland and wondered if GRF's suggestion (in another thread) of a soft sail would make that less challenging to sail in strong/gusty winds? I was just relating it to what I know and it worked for the Blaze after all.
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 11 May 17 at 8:09pm |
 Yeah, too right, and no I don't sail it solo in 20 knots........ |
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boatshed
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Posted: 12 May 17 at 9:13am |
Looks like you are whole class! You can dictate your own rules ;) |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 12 May 17 at 9:57am |
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Don't think I haven't considered it, if there are any other Spice sailors out there we could form a Class Association and make up whatever rules we like
Oh and, yes @DoDifferent it is a general handling issue rather than being specific to a certain point of sailing. I probably just need to grow some and just get on with it  Edited by Sam.Spoons - 12 May 17 at 9:59am |
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423zero
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Posted: 12 May 17 at 10:03am |
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Have you thought about a taller sail and reduce top make a big head sail,good gust response.
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iGRF
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Posted: 12 May 17 at 10:35am |
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These are my two EPS sails the original and the soft copy which performs much better for me, it's quicker through tacks, less likely to go into irons although it did last night when I forgot to dump the kicker after a failed gybe.It seems more tuneable shape wise as well although I felt he'd built to much fullness in the leading edge which only pulls out with lots of kicker induced mast bend.
 
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