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 Topic: RYA or new organisationPosted: 25 Apr 17 at 9:16pm |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 7:45pm |
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I'll be in Anglesey this weekend so I am a bit far away but thanks for the invite. I sold my Raceboard kit last year as I wasn't getting to events, racing boats again now.
I've just read the race report for a UKWA Cup event from last year and it does look healthy with a number of younger sailors racing RB, nice to see my old mate Mark Kay still has it (though I did know he was still doing well). It is a shame it doesn't filter down to local level though.....
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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GarethT
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 6:20pm |
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I think the LWA have techno's too.
There's a UKWA event at Rutland this weekend. Why not come and take a look if you're not too far. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 6:10pm |
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Fair enough, I'll admit to being out of touch with the National circuit in the last 10 years or so. However that doesn't happen at regional level (which neither the RYA or UKWA seem to have any interest in). Until I returned to dinghies 7-8 years ago we tried countless times to get the local T15 teams to join in out Raceboard events but I think it happened about twice with the T15 organisers making one excuse after another. There has to be integration at grass roots level or the kids go awol when they are too old for T15
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GarethT
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 5:29pm |
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How is windsurfing worse? The Techno's race at all the UKWA events, and outnumber the adults.
I can't think of any junior dinghy class that combines its opens with adult racing, apart from maybe the Laser 4.7. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 5:19pm |
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All they really need to do is to include club and open meeting racing into the 'pathway' in some way. As it is they keep the kids segregated from the mainstream (and it's much worse in windsurfing) so they don't become part of that scene until they have 'failed' to make the grade (if at all). I suspect many T15 kids are the children of non-windsurfers, gleaned from windsurfing taster courses and OB summer schools so they don't have their parents racing at club level to join in with. Plus there's not much club racing for windsurfers. It's different with dinghies but there is still a separation between youth and adult racing which need not be there.
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davidyacht
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 4:58pm |
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I have never completely bought into the arguement that sailing in the Olympics is such a bad thing; any sport needs heroes to look up to, this is something that encourages youth into a sport because it is cool ... and the Olympics is definitely people can relate to, and puts sailing on a level footing with other "bigger sports". And the Olympics is dinghy sailing ... something that we can identify with. The other Grand Prix events ... Vendee, Volvo and America's Cup are increasingly removed from mainstream dinghy sailing. We recently had a talk at our club by Hannah Mills and I have no doubt that some of the youngsters who attended will have gone away inspired, or at least confirmed that their participation in an Olympic sport was cool, I wont dwell on the whole Olympic circus and the associated ethical concerns, that is a debate for elsewhere; however it is fair to say that the RYA's Youth and Olymic pathway routes do not appear to do the mainstream sport a lot of favours, and in my opinion this is the area that the RYA could do so much more with.
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Happily living in the past
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transient
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 4:34pm |
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Yup. There's no Olympic legacy. It doesn't push the technology along. The associated corruption is appalling and while the sailing folk are undoubtedly squeaky clean everyone else seems to have asthma. Spend the efforts on simply sailing. Edited by transient - 25 Apr 17 at 4:36pm |
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iGRF
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 4:03pm |
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Well at least they gave you it, more than they did for us. What gets me is it could work so much better with just a little effort, everybody accepts it'll never be perfect, but it could be more inclusive, transparent, automated and with less suspicion of 'gerrymandering' to use a clapped out expression. |
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Do Different
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Posted: 25 Apr 17 at 3:57pm |
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Damn me, I so wish I had royalty rights on how many times the PY system gets mentioned or blamed, it really is the gift that keeps on giving isn't it?
Truly though, is anybody out there fixated and frustrated on PY or even slightly bothered as much as a double handful of posters on a Y&Y'ing forum?
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