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    Posted: 12 Apr 17 at 6:30pm
We were poised to go CASC when the consultation came around, rewriting our rules and m&a, but the constraints particularly on bar and food turnover and participation levels became too demanding so we have not followed through.  I think we still get a rates reduction, though in the current climate this might not last too long.

423zeros comments resonate ... I blame Mrs T for the "me" culture that we have today.
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Originally posted by 423zero

The red tape now being generated for a voluntary organisation is pushing volunteer members to the edge, we only have about 40 members, half of these think the other half are paid proffessionals to wait on them, bulk of work falls on the shoulders of half a dozen people.

so realistically, how long before you think the club closes down?
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So what records are you required to keep and how are the minimum participation levels decided to get CASC status?
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So what records are you required to keep and how are the minimum participation levels decided to get CASC status?

see https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/community-amateur-sports-clubs-detailed-guidance-notes/community-amateur-sports-clubs-detailed-guidance-notes

A club that is open more than 44 weeks of the year would require over 50% of the membership to have participated on at least 12 days.  

This would need to be recorded, and would prove a big ask if there is a significant "social" element to the club.

I think this is proving a big problem for local Rugby clubs where members may remain well after their playing days are over.
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Turnturtle, Club is in a better state now than 5 years ago, hardcore membership have worked hard to drag us back from the brink, lot of help from RYA too, from an average of 4 boats per race to 12 boats out of a membership of 40 pretty good.
I do not know participation figure off top of my head, guessing at 50%

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Originally posted by davidyacht


Originally posted by The Moo

So what records are you required to keep and how are the minimum participation levels decided to get CASC status?

see https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/community-amateur-sports-clubs-detailed-guidance-notes/community-amateur-sports-clubs-detailed-guidance-notes
A club that is open more than 44 weeks of the year would require over 50% of the membership to have participated on at least 12 days.  
This would need to be recorded, and would prove a big ask if there is a significant "social" element to the club.
I think this is proving a big problem for local Rugby clubs where members may remain well after their playing days are over.


If we ever decide to go down that route we have the participation levels info to hand as we complete a register every time the water is used. Have done so for years. As we are small it is easy to do. Also dinghy parking space is at a premium so it gives us evidence to politely ask those members who are not using their boats to remove them if we get an influx of keen newcomers with boats which we cannot accommodate.
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We applied for small business releif from the council and are £47 better off than before on rates. We have around 500 members.
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