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    Posted: 30 Mar 17 at 8:35am
The Vago was pre tested at our clubs sailing school prior to launch when it had an association with laser. The feedback was not good. The snag list was long. When the discussion was had it was admitted t was too late as they had already built a significant number of hulls.
Our sailing school never bought them.
Get a 2k or a 500 depending on experience.
Better sorted. More support. More people sail them. And fixable.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 17 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Any reason for a poly boat rather than FRP tink?
It all goes back to why I bought the Vision. About 6/7 years ago my daughter was about 5yrs old and I wanted a family boat to get her into sailing. At the time I was developing a 14ft proa and sailing an IC so spending a lot of time in the boat shed, my wife insisted the boat had to be zero maintenance. It also had left all year on on the North York Moors, very icy in the winter. Anyway the Vision has been a total success, my daughter hooked on sailing, I have only replaced the jib furl line (and the cover, standard one couldn't take the UV) and it has spent all it's life up on the Moors. 
Move to the present day, I have a wooden Streaker, 12 ft sailing canoe and my daughter an Opi so still spending time in the boat shed. Still want a two handed boat for my daughter to sail together so was considering a switch to a Vago.

Anyway thanks to a the responses and I have decided to stick to the Vision and see how much two handed sailing we actually do. My current favourite is the 3000, light and I can get one for the same dollar as can sail the Vision for.

Anyway  thanks again one and all.
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There was an RS Vision in my old club.
Sailed well it was a menace on PY.
They go quite well in lightish airs. They don't capsize much. They don't break.

Moving on from there, I'd think about who/what there is to race against.
For a father/youngish daughter team, the Buzz comes to mind as a value for money menace on PY.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 17 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by RS400atC

There was an RS Vision in my old club.
Sailed well it was a menace on PY.
They go quite well in lightish airs. They don't capsize much. They don't break.

Moving on from there, I'd think about who/what there is to race against.
For a father/youngish daughter team, the Buzz comes to mind as a value for money menace on PY.
Mentioning no names of course!
You are poking the Hornets Nest now, we know is posting next. Will look at the Buzz stats.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 17 at 9:03pm
That should be 

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how can you tell a good builder from one purely aiming at profit?

the good builders work with the class association and owners to find areas to improve without affecting existing owners significantly.

the profit builders just keep banging out new models until they run out of numbers or obscure names to call them

buy a class with some history and some hope of a future Gp14 etc









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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 17 at 10:38pm
L3K is a nice boat, a mate has one, we're a bit heavy for it but it's fun in a blow and more forgiving than the Spice. FRP is pretty low maintenance too so when you move on from the Vision you should still manage to remain married. A virtual beginner I know bought a L2 after a couple of years in a Swallow (of all things, horrid looking thing but it got him going) and he's doing well in it solo (without the kite) and with a novice crew so the hull form is not too tricky.

There's a lot to be said for the trad classes too though (even if they are usually a bit heavier than the modern kit). I would love a decent FRP Ent (especially a new Mk3..... ) just a pure and simple nice boat.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 17 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by ian.r.mcdonald

how can you tell a good builder from one purely aiming at profit?

the good builders work with the class association and owners to find areas to improve without affecting existing owners significantly.

the profit builders just keep banging out new models until they run out of numbers or obscure names to call them

buy a class with some history and some hope of a future Gp14 etc 

Interesting how many older designs are in the PY table when you sort it by returns and how many recent designs no longer get a PY. 
LASER
SOLO
LASER RADIAL
RS 400
RS 200
PHANTOM
SUPERNOVA
STREAKER
TOPPER
MERLIN-ROCKET
ENTERPRISE
FIREBALL
COMET
ALBACORE
GP14


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 17 at 6:20pm
Supersofa the newest in there?

Suspect that will change as the Aero takes hold, but still a poor show from the millennium babies.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 17 at 6:45pm
Originally posted by Rupert

Supersofa the newest in there?

Suspect that will change as the Aero takes hold, but still a poor show from the millennium babies.

Supernova 1996
RS200 1995

Cant find when the 400 was launched. So the Nova is over 20 years old, hardly a new design!

What is more telling is the proportion of active boats vs boats built.
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