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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Not a myth at all. The Wroxham Stars, at least when I last saw them, seemed to be in effect just another local one design class without much connection to the world scene (although they do buy the odd second hand boat I expect). Other than that I have only ever seen one Star on the water once. When you look at the ISAF numbers it becomes evident that there are no truly worldwide keelboat classes, they're all regional to a greater or lesser extent. There are classes in the Americas, classes with a strong European base, even Classes that are predominantly commonwealth, but true worldwide popularity, like say the Laser or Optimist, seems to elude all of them. That's why the Yngling ended up as a Olympic class. It had some kind of fleet in a a few local hotspots on more continents than any of the other choices did, and so looked like the least worst choice. |
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blueboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 512 |
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Yes, used to see them in the central Solent reasonably often. Not lately I must admit. I have see Elliots, not sure I have every seen an Yngling. I haven't seen a Cherub or an IC recently though. |
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Dougaldog ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 05 Nov 10 Location: hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 356 |
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The Elliot 6s were mainly based at Weymouth as they were chosen as the boat for the Women's Match Racing. As you'll recall, this was going to be the BIG thing in the five ring circus, though some cynics might say that the idea was at the behest of the US who thought that they'd have sure fire golden prospects in the discipline. Ynglings another matter - go out to mainland Europe and you'll find them sailed by lots of young ladies...... But back to the OP; Yes, by definition the Star is a keelboat, in some much that it drags around a lump of metal slung permanently under the hull (as against the Finn that can raise and lower the lump of metal). But how does this translate into a representation of the large numbers of people who sail boats ranging from the smaller sports boats to the super-maxis. They are every bit as much a racing community as the RS-Xs, kiteboarders, Finn or 470s sailors....but in WS terms, don't appear to be getting much in the way of recognition - unless they think that there is a family relationship between the Star and these other boats. I'm just glad that someone will be sorting the mess out! D
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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ISTR a couple of stars in Cowes about 20 years ago. Possibly Olympic triallists or left over from the campaign? Was there ever a proper fleet? Or did the build-up mostly occur on the continent? |
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drifter ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 08 Location: Oxfordshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 177 |
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Yes, thanks for asking
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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The ISAF reports are as good as one is going to get for getting some sort of picture where classes are strong. Here's the most recent Star one.
http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/STA2016ClassReport-[19941].pdf To find these go to http://www.sailing.org/classesandequipment/index.php,navigate to the class you want, click the "technical" tab, and then find class reports link. |
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KazRob ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Oct 16 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 245 |
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5500 boats worldwide isn't bad by any measure tho. Think the latest sail numbers are around 8500
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I always wonder how on earth classes are supposed to get that figure (How many boats exist worldwide). I don't think any of the classes I've been involved in administration with would have a clue.
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KazRob ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Oct 16 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 245 |
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Ah - the Stars have had a full time professional class office since the early days. The year book lists the whereabouts and owner of every boat in every fleet and any isolated members worldwide. Impressive stuff - even those in museums are listed. I do believe the guy that set it all up may have been a bit OCD and famously said that if the office ever got asked if something was allowed under the rules to say 'No - you can never be wrong if you say no initially'
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drifter ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 08 Location: Oxfordshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 177 |
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There's a lovely one for sale at South Queensferry by Edinburgh. My wife and I have seen it several times, I tell her it's just a big uncapsizeable Albacore, but she won't let me buy it...
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