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    Posted: 24 Feb 17 at 9:48am
Originally posted by gordon1277

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You have a point, The I14 was around of course and the 49er cant have been far behind but the 800 totally agree.

I haven't got my class data spreadsheet here, but as I recall the Exocet/B14E/B4 was mid/late 80s but did almost nothing in the UK for some years. The name was not a clever choice: there is, as I recall, a little 'selective writing' of history about that in one of Bethwaite's books. It didn't make the PY list until 1997.

The 49er was I think 1995 and 5 tonner a year or so earlier.

In the mid 80s the I14 was a very odd beast, spectacularly hamstrung by some very peculiar class rules, but nevertheless has never since reached the popularity it had then, partially perhaps due to a huge amount of publicity, which as rumour has it, was run by the deBeers publicity department. Perhaps too the heavily rules slugged performance, about the speed of a 505, was more in line with what the sailors could cope with?
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You have a point, The I14 was around of course and the 49er cant have been far behind but the 800 totally agree.
Would the 5 tonner (possibly the only boat heavier than a Finn)have been around then or was that later as well? (just looked designed early 90's)
Falklands war was early 80's and the Exocet was first seen sometime after that, hence the objection to the original name so how soon after that did the boat come to the UK?
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Hi Grf
Dont go to Frensham it gives you brain damage!
I am trying to think of a good reason not to go this year with the Phantom.
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the worse boat in Christendom RS100..

I'm not letting that one go. It's not the boat's fault your anticipation and technique were inadequate.


Well do I have to point out sailing it in the wind and waves of the English Channel are just a little different to Swallow and Amazoning it about Frensham Pond?

oh come off it, you could'nt manage flat water in Poole Harbour. And why wrongly assume that because you dont travel and do events on the sea that i dont. Bring your Solution to the Frensham Frenzy the week after the Dinghy Show and try it, often far more likely to tip you in than consistent open water breezes.

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Originally posted by gordon1277


If the B14 had gone double trapeze it would have been up against the 49er/800/int14 and lost out to all. Wide racks and hiking gave it a USP and add competition with the Aussies.

I'm absolutely certain that the 49er didn't exist back then, and 99% certain that the RS800 didn't either.
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Originally posted by iGRF

the worse boat in Christendom RS100..

I'm not letting that one go. It's not the boat's fault your anticipation and technique were inadequate.


Well do I have to point out sailing it in the wind and waves of the English Channel are just a little different to Swallow and Amazoning it about Frensham Pond?
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the worse boat in Christendom RS100..

I'm not letting that one go. It's not the boat's fault your anticipation and technique were inadequate.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Feb 17 at 6:51pm
I think the B14 hull shape and racks afford some scope for meddling and I wonder what it would be like with a rig refresh and updated foils - perhaps those wings could be used to widen the shroud base moth-alike and afford a higher aspect (wing) main sail and self tacking jib - if you could get it foiling then you wouldn't need the kite at all, just go full on big main wing and perhaps small foil in front?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Feb 17 at 4:03pm
Thin people with wide racks on 600's can pass between rack and hull to re-mount.
It's amusing (for bystanders) when a larger person with narrow racks tries to copy this....
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Originally posted by Cirrus




In fact it is actually much easier to recover form a capsize with the right type of racks in some classes.   Smile 




I can certainly echo that having capsized and recovered 18 times in one race in that infernal MPS and I'd agree the Blaze isn't difficult to recover if in fact you go right over, stepping round onto the plate works well to perfect 'dry' capsizes, They've got to be the two easiest boats I've ever recovered from, I haven't really seriously stacked this Solution yet but I can see it being a bit of a mare if ever I did, though not quite as bad as the worse boat in Christendom RS100..
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