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    Posted: 25 Nov 16 at 9:22am
Originally posted by JimC

The bulls**** quotient on this thread is quite extraordinary!

I can see no requirement in RRS or the Bloody Mary NOR and Sailing instructions for membership of class association. I also note that the NOR states "All competitors will be deemed to be temporary members of Queen Mary Sailing Club during the event" which means that RRS75 is automatically complied with for all entrants.

When it comes to class rules, I got an opinion from the RYA that if a boat is taken out of class rules it automatically stops being a boat of that class and the class rules don't apply. A sort of reverse catch 22. All that means entering in handicap races is that you need to ensure that the race organisers know exactly in what way your boat is a not-quite-Merlin-Rocket so they can make a judgement on what handicap to allocate, or even (tho' that would not IMHO be good practice) reject the entry.

Logically this would seem to mean that should the XYZ400 class rules say the crew must be CA members, then if the crew are not CA members then it ceases to be an XYZ400, and the procedure would seem to be to enter normally and inform organisers that the boat is identical with an XYZ400 in all respects except CA membership, and ask them to allocate a handicap...

I know its the sailing silly season, but honestly chaps we'll all get along better if people don't make up rules as they go along!

Clap Couldn't agree more Jim!
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Most class associations are RYA affiliated so the required membership could come that way since it is usually cheaper than club membership.

If the class was designed before 1985 and the association has ceased to exist, then it comes under the CVRDA Lost Classes wing and you could join the CVRDA http://www.cvrda.org as it is RYA affiliated and membership is only a tenner.

Most of us on here are probably "in" through multiple ways - I'm in one club, two class associations, cvrda and also a personal member so 5.

So who's got the most "memberships" on here?

Edited by patj - 25 Nov 16 at 11:45am
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I'm currently in 3 clubs and a personal RYA member.
3 clubs as a result of moving.
CA's have kind of lapsed TBH.
I might avoid favouring one in particular if I entered an open event...
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I'm in 3 clubs (but will only be two in the new year as I will not be rejoining one of them and my holiday club is not affiliated to the RYA) and one (Blaze) CA (Spice doesn't have an active CA).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 16 at 4:06pm
Do you have to do three sets of duties then?
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At the first club I never actually sailed, and was never contacted for duties, I do them as required at the club in Anglesey (but that's pretty informal and RO/Safety duties are usually handled by non sailing volunteers). The new club will allocate duties next year and I will happily comply. 
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Great to see Burghfield getting 1st & 4th at the Datchet Flyer. Well done! Matt/Emma and Mike.
Also great to see other Burghfield members putting in good results.
Formerly - OK 2145 Phantom 1437, Blaze 819, Fireball 14668, Mirror 54145
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Just for info . . . there is a very basic Spice Class page, which I must update sometime!! On the web page a rating of 950 is recommended. See http://www.vantagesailing.com/PBCPPlayer.asp?PW=1&ID=1661921

Also, all Spice parts are available from Vantage Sailing, as are Buzz, ISO, Boss, Sport 14 & 16, Cruz parts.

The Spice Class is not affiliated to the RYA, the cost cannot be justified.

All Class Associations at the dinghy show are affiliated to the RYA, it's a requirement when booking your stand.

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Originally posted by Stu.B

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All Class Associations at the dinghy show are affiliated to the RYA, it's a requirement when booking your stand.

Stuart
Who else is old enough to remember a big row about that?
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Not me!! Well actually probably old enough but don't remember!!

It does mean that you get the necessary insurance for the show so fair enough I suppose. It also means that I get 2 copies of the RYA magazine a month, not sure that I need 2 though!!
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