Ailing Club Affiliation

Originally posted by RS400atC Shall we start on people who aren't members of their boat's class association next?

I'm not, and hence why you don't see me at those events, but you are and have taken the Kings Shilling so to speak, so you just have to suck it up when the fickle finger of internet hate gets pointed in your direction for such a fowl transgression, not quite as bad as being a racist homophobic bigot like me, but enough to get a jolly thread on the subject on the boil..

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons What if your class has no CA

There is no rule I can find saying you have to be a member of a Class Association in the RRS. Some classes have requirements for Class association membership for at least some events in their class rules, or include such requirements in Notices of Race.

Edited by JimC - 24 Nov 16 at 3:56pm

....fickle finger of internet hate blah blah

Oh is that what it is ?   I was not treating it with with any real concern frankly (nor will I start doing so!) . 

To quote the late great Dennis Healey when dealing with comments from Geoffrey Howe et al .. And I cannot remember the exact words but it was something like "An attack from Geoffrey Howe is like being savaged by a dead sheep" ...

Says it all really, I think I'll just leave things like that ....   


Edited by Cirrus - 24 Nov 16 at 4:00pm

The bulls**** quotient on this thread is quite extraordinary!

I can see no requirement in RRS or the Bloody Mary NOR and Sailing instructions for membership of class association. I also note that the NOR states "All competitors will be deemed to be temporary members of Queen Mary Sailing Club during the event" which means that RRS75 is automatically complied with for all entrants.

When it comes to class rules, I got an opinion from the RYA that if a boat is taken out of class rules it automatically stops being a boat of that class and the class rules don't apply. A sort of reverse catch 22. All that means entering in handicap races is that you need to ensure that the race organisers know exactly in what way your boat is a not-quite-Merlin-Rocket so they can make a judgement on what handicap to allocate, or even (tho' that would not IMHO be good practice) reject the entry.

Logically this would seem to mean that should the XYZ400 class rules say the crew must be CA members, then if the crew are not CA members then it ceases to be an XYZ400, and the procedure would seem to be to enter normally and inform organisers that the boat is identical with an XYZ400 in all respects except CA membership, and ask them to allocate a handicap...

I know its the sailing silly season, but honestly chaps we'll all get along better if people don't make up rules as they go along!

Edited by JimC - 24 Nov 16 at 5:18pm