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    Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 8:37pm
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AIUI - the ban on homosexuality in the armed services was lifted in 2000, therefore by association service sailing clubs would have been homophobic by default up until the turn of the century. But your point is valid, that RYA video is a total joke - if anything undermining the very fabric of what is otherwise a liberal and tolerant sport.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 7:34pm
Originally posted by transient

In general a sport (or any other organisation including internet forums) can be considered homophobic, racist or sexist or whatever or not. It depends on how the governing body or owners deals with the bigots within it's membership, some of whom may be in key positions. Does it collude, make token gestures or come down like a ton of bricks?





The RYA presumably have guidelines for dealing with homophobia. It appears Y&Y do not. At least at the moment it doesn't.

 
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Originally posted by winging it

It's a shame your post was deleted.  It would have been useful for the general population of this forum to see you as you really are.


What I may or may not be in your perception Wing Wang is not the way I'm viewed in real life. That post was irrelevant to the discussion, which has as usual when some of the more cowardly posters do here when they scent blood and reach for the pitchforks turned into a personal affront on my good self and you are notorious in that regard also, so I can't help you I'm afraid.

As far as I can see the case is proven not to be as discussed by your own admission and experience as an openly gay individual training school kids in a sailing club, if homophobia existed as is being claimed then you might have experienced it.

What we now need is a case similar to the RYA example but an actual incident, which I very much doubt has occurred.
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It's a shame your post was deleted.  It would have been useful for the general population of this forum to see you as you really are.


the same, but different...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 6:06pm
Suggesting death camps for wood botherers is what passes for humour in some parts of the world, as does taking the piss out of others using terms like bender, gheyboy, ladies etc

Using those examples to suggest in some way I'm single handedly responsible for 'Homophobia' in sailing is as ridiculous as it is delusional.

I absolutely hate whining 'offended' keyboard warriors, self important narcissistic authoritarians in love with the clatter of their own keyboards as they boom out disapproval.
It makes you wonder if they really are geared for life on Earth, time to stop crying and grow up, everyone faces micro aggression, of some description or another, it's part of the real world.

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Originally posted by winging it

You yourself have discriminated against gay men here on this sailing forum.  Will that do?


as I said   Messers dunning and Kruger  at play, 

also i'd love to understand the  thought process where  'presumptions'   which are observations  based o nthe  expressed behaviours and  attitudes of ina individual  are proof  of   Dunning-Kruger  phenomena 

 I would also suspect that GRF  is unaware of the constant (and cumulative) micro -aggressions  that  are faced by  any minority ... 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 5:49pm
You yourself have discriminated against gay men here on this sailing forum.  Will that do?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zippyRN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 5:49pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by zippyRN



 Proof Positive of Messers Dunning and Kruger's work ...Your attitude , actiosn and words  do not match  the assertions you make. 


I should think you would be well aware of their work the presumptions you make.

So tell me... show me an actual case of a gay person being discriminated against in the sailing world and I'm not interested in banter, show me something that has happened to cause someone real and genuine stress, not confected offence.

Prove your accusation


oh really 

I have made no presumptions  in this thread ,  my comments about your bigotry and hate speech have been based entirely in the bigtory and hate speech that you  yourself have typed. 

but then again someone who  suggests  Death camps for  peopel who disagrees  with them   is really on to a loser  in the first place ... 






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