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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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true, but the transcript says allowing lesbians would ruin the reputation of the club.... so I'm assuming this is a typical taster day at a typical club with a dinghy section.
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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I got the impression it was a training center. More to sailing than just dinghy clubs.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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an anecdote from the 70's maybe? I dunno..... there's something fishy about presenting that as a real life case study from a modern club surely? I'm just not sure that 4 women walking into a sailing club for a taster session would have their sexuality questioned..... if I'm wrong, and that did actually happen, then frankly I'm shocked.
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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I thought it could be fictitous but It's on youtube as well. Decribed by the RYA as a case study.
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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did this actually happen??? Is this a real case study??? I mean FFS.... name the club, his action would 'ruin its reputation'.
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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Given those figures for the general population I think it's safe to say that it's a certainty that in a predominantly middle class, male dominated sport in the UK there is going to be a certain level of homophobia. I doubt it is on the same level as some other sports but it is there. I've seen it on these boards and you've seen it. Exactly how big the issue is and the measure of personal grief it causes is for others to say.
Pretending it doesn't exist in the sport really isn't tenable. Edit: Here's the (very short) RYA training video on sexual orientation.They acknowledge the existence of the problem. http://www.rya.org.uk/coursestraining/resources/equaility/Pages/SexualOrientation.aspx Edited by transient - 31 Oct 16 at 10:39am |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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I definitely know of some Anti-Semitism in sailing....
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Somewhat worrying that even in the highest ranking countries, approx 1/4 of people do not think homosexuality should be accepted in society. Maybe if that number were higher, there would be no need for surveys, protests etc and GRF would be right that everything is in the past.
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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Ta for that link......reading. |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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'He' is no longer a flag officer of any club or organisation thank God and as one of the more tolerant of the gay community folk in his particular world, he finds it particularly offensive to be called 'bigot' etc by morons on a sailing website for the simple expedient of putting the argument those who have lived through five decades of increasing tolerance thereto, that the lgbt gong is being banged too often and frankly isn't needed where there is no case for it.
It would be better to consider racism than homophobia in sailing since it is far more evident, I have no idea wether or not there are gay folk in either of my clubs I neither ask nor care, nor when on the beach or break do I cast around for pink attire. But as a community, sailing v say wind or kite surfing, there are far less black or coloured faces, no positive discrimination either to redress that issue. Politics has no place in sport and the machinations of stonewall types make me sick to the stomach frankly, of all the gay folk of my acquaintance and there are quite a few, none of them ask nor expect anything other than to be considered as an ordinary player in life, they would be embarrassed by positive discrimination if they thought for one moment their position was being promoted by it for whatever reason. Yes there may still be discrimination in other worlds, morons on football terraces, rednecks or skinheads in bars in the wrong part of town, but then those sort are just as likely to rail against all manner of decent activities and types for the sheer wilfulness of it, so no in my world it doesn't exist, hasn't for a long time now, hence the feeling at ease to poke fun on occasion, nothing I wouldn't do to their faces. And pray tell is there a minimum height requirement for priesthood? That would be ironic. Edited by iGRF - 30 Oct 16 at 6:27pm |
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