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    Posted: 31 Oct 16 at 12:01pm
true, but the transcript says allowing lesbians would ruin the reputation of the club.... so I'm assuming this is a typical taster day at a typical club with a dinghy section.

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I got the impression it was a training center. More to sailing than just dinghy clubs.

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Originally posted by transient

I thought it could be fictitous but It's on youtube as well. Decribed by the RYA as a case study.

an anecdote from the 70's maybe?   I dunno..... there's something fishy about presenting that as a real life case study from a modern club surely?  

I'm just not sure that 4 women walking into a sailing club for a taster session would have their sexuality questioned.....  if I'm wrong, and that did actually happen, then frankly I'm shocked.


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I thought it could be fictitous but It's on youtube as well. Decribed by the RYA as a case study.

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did this actually happen???  Is this a real case study???  I mean FFS.... name the club, his action would 'ruin its reputation'.
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Given those figures for the general population I think it's safe to say that it's a certainty that in  a predominantly middle class, male dominated sport in the UK  there is going to be a certain level of homophobia. I doubt it is on the same level as some other sports but it is there. I've seen it on these boards and you've seen it. Exactly how big the issue is and the measure of personal grief it causes is for others to say.

Pretending it doesn't exist in the sport really isn't tenable. 

Edit: Here's the (very short) RYA training video on sexual orientation.They acknowledge the existence of the problem.

http://www.rya.org.uk/coursestraining/resources/equaility/Pages/SexualOrientation.aspx


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Somewhat worrying that even in the highest ranking countries, approx 1/4 of people do not think homosexuality should be accepted in society. Maybe if that number were higher, there would be no need for surveys, protests etc and GRF would be right that everything is in the past.
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Originally posted by Chris 249

Originally posted by transient

I'm getting "Page not found" from that link you posted earlier so can't comment.

There is an ongoing government inquiry in Homophobia in Sport. Don't know when the report will be published.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/culture-media-and-sport-committee/news-parliament-2015/homophobia-in-sport-launch-15-16/

There's some problem with linking to that page. The paper can also be found at


I'm not saying that any of the papers I checked are perfectly accurate, or that their methodology is flawless. However, this and other studies would be a hell of a lot more accurate than people relying on their gut feeling of their recollections of what others have said on a site that presents an inaccurate representation of the community.  The tendency for people to discard data that doesn't fit their bigoted views is part of the problem for the LGBTI community and others.





Ta for that link......reading.
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'He' is no longer a flag officer of any club or organisation thank God and as one of the more tolerant of the gay community folk in his particular world, he finds it particularly offensive to be called 'bigot' etc by morons on a sailing website for the simple expedient of putting the argument those who have lived through five decades of increasing tolerance thereto, that the lgbt gong is being banged too often and frankly isn't needed where there is no case for it.

It would be better to consider racism than homophobia in sailing since it is far more evident, I have no idea wether or not there are gay folk in either of my clubs I neither ask nor care, nor when on the beach or break do I cast around for pink attire. But as a community, sailing v say wind or kite surfing, there are far less black or coloured faces, no positive discrimination either to redress that issue.

Politics has no place in sport and the machinations of stonewall types make me sick to the stomach frankly, of all the gay folk of my acquaintance and there are quite a few, none of them ask nor expect anything other than to be considered as an ordinary player in life, they would be embarrassed by positive discrimination if they thought for one moment their position was being promoted by it for whatever reason.

Yes there may still be discrimination in other worlds, morons on football terraces, rednecks or skinheads in bars in the wrong part of town, but then those sort are just as likely to rail against all manner of decent activities and types for the sheer wilfulness of it, so no in my world it doesn't exist, hasn't for a long time now, hence the feeling at ease to poke fun on occasion, nothing I wouldn't do to their faces.

And pray tell is there a minimum height requirement for priesthood? That would be ironic.


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