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    Posted: 29 Oct 16 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by Presuming Ed

Originally posted by zippyRN

 to bigots like GRF not having to face the fact that their internalised  bigotry is not  the reality of the world or what wider society  accepts  as within the realms of normal ... 

Massively unsurprised by that post from GRF. Ever since he nailed his colours to the mast with this, I've long thought that he's resigned from any right to be considered a decent human being. 

 really does sum it up ... 

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This thread serves no real purpose now

Its got nothing to do with our sport
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Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by zippyRN


Originally posted by iGRF

For most folk, under the age of 50 it's never been illegal to not be heterosexual.

And anyway what does it matter? Seriously does anybody ever walk into a room and even think about the sexuality of its contents, seriously when has it ever occurred to you?

It is positive discrimination these days, the era of gay bashing has long gone.

Sailing? Homophobic? No, it isn't.

Media driven nonesense

  Sailing as a sport may not be homophobic but you have proven your bigotry beyond all doubt with your emissions ...


And you have proven typical of that whining element in society that is 'offended' and 'outraged' at every turn, from the convenience of their keyboard of course, honestly do you actually think I could give a tinkers toss what you think? RN? Isn't that the none hetero sexual sailors career of choice? Could even indicate where the 'offence' emanates, haven't quite got the nerve to 'come out' though as if anyone would really care about that either.


Now you really are going to far by adding a personal insult to gross hompphobia. Entirely wrong on your decode of RN.
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Originally posted by zippyRN


Originally posted by iGRF

For most folk, under the age of 50 it's never been illegal to not be heterosexual.

And anyway what does it matter? Seriously does anybody ever walk into a room and even think about the sexuality of its contents, seriously when has it ever occurred to you?

It is positive discrimination these days, the era of gay bashing has long gone.

Sailing? Homophobic? No, it isn't.

Media driven nonesense

  Sailing as a sport may not be homophobic but you have proven your bigotry beyond all doubt with your emissions ...


And you have proven typical of that whining element in society that is 'offended' and 'outraged' at every turn, from the convenience of their keyboard of course, honestly do you actually think I could give a tinkers toss what you think? RN? Isn't that the none hetero sexual sailors career of choice? Could even indicate where the 'offence' emanates, haven't quite got the nerve to 'come out' though as if anyone would really care about that either.



Edited by iGRF - 29 Oct 16 at 4:52pm
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Originally posted by Chris 249

See for example


where Australia is rated to have (marginally) less discrimination than the UK.



Gives a 404.

Based on posts on SA, the AUS sailing community comes over as significantly more aggressively and traditionally macho than elsewhere. Anecdotal, yes. Maybe a case of lost in translation, possibly. However I give this as much weight as social science attitudinal studies which are notoriously frequently non-reproducible.
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Originally posted by NickM

Can we get back to sailing now?


This thread is "Homophobia in Sailing". If you are not interested then it is not mandatory to read it.
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Originally posted by zippyRN

 to bigots like GRF not having to face the fact that their internalised  bigotry is not  the reality of the world or what wider society  accepts  as within the realms of normal ... 

Massively unsurprised by that post from GRF. Ever since he nailed his colours to the mast with this, I've long thought that he's resigned from any right to be considered a decent human being. 
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Originally posted by iGRF

For most folk, under the age of 50 it's never been illegal to not be heterosexual.

And anyway what does it matter? Seriously does anybody ever walk into a room and even think about the sexuality of its contents, seriously when has it ever occurred to you?

It is positive discrimination these days, the era of gay bashing has long gone.

Sailing? Homophobic? No, it isn't.

Media driven nonesense


Most people in Surrey and presumably Kent that is.
We have to remember this is the world wide web, not the home counties web.
Large areas of the world are subject to religions which 'homophobic' barely starts to describe.
We're supposed to be tolerant of that too...
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Ultimately, asking a person or a closed community if it has homophobic tendencies is a wasted question. For all intents and purposes you are asking them if they think their behaviour/thinking is reasonable and of course they will say it is. (see Met police or Some US forces on racism) You will not get a reliable answer.

When I say reasonable I mean not clouded or contaminated with emotion. Sadly some folk have made a very large and painful emotional investment in their belief system.........these folk are mostly beyond reason on these subjects.

Edit: Genuinely glad to see you edited that post from yesterday iGRF.  





Edited by transient - 29 Oct 16 at 11:32am
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Chris 249, how on earth did they measure such things and get statistics from it? And who was doing the measuring? Any question you ask on such things is open to interpretation in any direction. Pretty sure you could do a survey about discrimination against dinghy sailors and get worse figures if you worded it right. Or a differently worded set of questions and find we are loved by all.
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